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Re: Video I did of the Makro Multi Kruzer March 14, 2018 10:48PM |
Des!!
Yes stratosphere airtest ability.The 19khz digs planty of the tiny stuff if you require it...The Gold model should really go SMALL...
Yes well thought out design and EXCEPTIONAL build quality,,,cant give it enough merits...Once you see in one person the quality is something other manufacturers should be AWARE of...and of course the PERFORMANCE is top shelf ...It may (TO ME) be a better unmasker than the Impact or Racer especially with stock coil Vs stock coil..I hope the Video of nail board test using stock 11x7 showed this...thast quite the feat...Ive pulled alot of non ferrous in heavy iron that other machines left with smaller coils.!
Doc
Tabzilla
No your not hallucinating !!
Tom S.
It came with the evaluation unit..I believe it will be an accessory item..AN dyes backup battery is an option too!You cna run your Impact coils on it now if your not too tall!!
Harold
Hello!!
As far as the Multi Kruzer goes...to me it's a Nice unit to have and gives Racer /Impact type performance.So what's wrong with that??I think it may be the better of all the units in unmasking coil for coil..Yet in a rugged self contained package...I like the idea of having all electronics in one housing and sealed up...I like I can use it in rain or dirty environs and just hose it off..The housing is of a very durable rubberized coating and can take a beating say against rocks and such...
I have found that in heavy iron and deep iron the 19Khz is the way to go for not having to chase deep and or larger iron that may read good on 5-khz or 14-Khz and when in heavy iron habitat sites the 19Khz seems to UNLOCK the best with the ground balance left on 90..
5khz is a beast of a mode for deeper high coins deeper and big brass in deep mode...using a slower sweep speed not really too slow..just a smooth lazy swing...Yet still quite well at unmasking.And doesn't particularly bother you with the tiny stuff to boot.
14Khz is fantastic for multi period habitat sites..
The option is there to use ID from 14-Khz for 5-Khz and 19-Khz or have it to be separate/exact for each freq..
The EUD Extra Underground Depth is more for dealing with very high mineralization and I have had to look long and hard for some mineral to see its benefit...yet I did find a specimen and it cleaned up a grunt with target under it to a legitimate high tone.
iSAT should be left on zero as it will affect the disc mode too..and offer better unmasking ability and mineral see through..think of it as a filter.my video had it on 1.Tried to show it as stock as I could..things cna be tweaked for more performance.
Battery life very adequate for all day 8-10 hour hunt with room to spare.
You can offset freq in any freq for EMI...and it works very well..Machine is sparky by nature especially in 2 tone and 4 tone the hot rod modes..and I've used offset a few times in urban EMI to cleanly silence EMI on all the freqs..
I enjoy three tone for even heavy iron..and I prefer to set my Hz tones to my liking..you can change the Hz tones and tone breaks in any mode!In three tone I like iron to be 15(150 Hz) and mid tone to be 47(47 Hz) and high tone to be 70(700 hz)...Three tone to me in iron is stellar for really zeroing in on those mid tones yet still allows me to notice the low high tone bounce of large iron and alert me also to a solid high tone( the blood pumper hits)...No need to look at meter..Tone breaks are at 15 ID and I like 65 ID for high tone break..the real deep mid conductors will give a Nice turkey gobble like this!!!Like three ringers at 10 inches or more..Beautiful sound and very telling!!
Auto tracking is very Nice( excellent system ) if required but I use ground grab mostly.and stay locked.
backlight adjustable and very well lit
Nice big ID numbers..easy to navigate menu system with all info right on screen at all times.
Ability to notch any ID number in multi segments and assign iron tone to notched Items if you like and control the volume of that notched item..( yes I can take credit for that Mak/Nok Feature.I like to hear it all no matter what...LOL)
Handgrip is really thick durable rubber and does not slip around on shaft..
Machine can be a little nose heavy but not AT Pro heavy with stock coil Yet it feels so rugged and non flexing shafts It not a real issue to me anyways..I can see someone making a pistol grip straight shaft at some point I bet..since the housing is simply slid on with one screw....Lower rod is carbon fiber and very good quality at that!
Armcuff is now very tall on the sides and secures the arm very nicely its flexible enough to accommodate a coat or bare arm..THANK YOU!!!No more modding of arm cuffs needed!!Should be on all of they're units!!
The best part of the unit is the ability to UNMASK and it does that on a world class level..Nuanced Blendy Bleedy audio!!!HArd not to like Racers/Impacts/Cores/Kruzers after seeing what they can do in trash and iron..Depth is right there with other Vlfs...
With freq choices and tone modes etc..It can be all a person needs in a VLF..A dedicated salt water hunter or prospector may look for specialized equipment but if it's like a racer or Impact and I dare say it is, it should do well on certain salt waters and may be all that person requires.
The MMK offers alot options and Par Excellence build...If you want the Mak/Nok DNA in waterproof setup well this is it..
It lacks some of the modes of the Impact..and one is Mixed mode..((I asked but did not receive LOL))Think STRONG Racer 2 DNA with selectable freqs Like Impact and we have a Hybrid of both in a well thought out design!!Tones do seem a little Crisper/Tighter on the MMK and machine seems a little more sure of itself on masked targets.
Im happy to welcome it to the arsenal as it is waterproof and compact and I can go anywhere even in rain which I have many times so far and maybe hit some lakes this spring and take it to the salt water this summer if i can get time in for a hunt during my daughters Softball World Series..I remember the first time I hunted a salt beach with my Red Racer and 5x10 coil I said then, man I wish I could get this Racer in a waterproof package as its doing well in this Gulf coast surf..Well they did just that and gave us some freq options too!!
Keith
“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla
Yes stratosphere airtest ability.The 19khz digs planty of the tiny stuff if you require it...The Gold model should really go SMALL...
Yes well thought out design and EXCEPTIONAL build quality,,,cant give it enough merits...Once you see in one person the quality is something other manufacturers should be AWARE of...and of course the PERFORMANCE is top shelf ...It may (TO ME) be a better unmasker than the Impact or Racer especially with stock coil Vs stock coil..I hope the Video of nail board test using stock 11x7 showed this...thast quite the feat...Ive pulled alot of non ferrous in heavy iron that other machines left with smaller coils.!
Doc
Tabzilla
No your not hallucinating !!
Tom S.
It came with the evaluation unit..I believe it will be an accessory item..AN dyes backup battery is an option too!You cna run your Impact coils on it now if your not too tall!!
Harold
Hello!!
As far as the Multi Kruzer goes...to me it's a Nice unit to have and gives Racer /Impact type performance.So what's wrong with that??I think it may be the better of all the units in unmasking coil for coil..Yet in a rugged self contained package...I like the idea of having all electronics in one housing and sealed up...I like I can use it in rain or dirty environs and just hose it off..The housing is of a very durable rubberized coating and can take a beating say against rocks and such...
I have found that in heavy iron and deep iron the 19Khz is the way to go for not having to chase deep and or larger iron that may read good on 5-khz or 14-Khz and when in heavy iron habitat sites the 19Khz seems to UNLOCK the best with the ground balance left on 90..
5khz is a beast of a mode for deeper high coins deeper and big brass in deep mode...using a slower sweep speed not really too slow..just a smooth lazy swing...Yet still quite well at unmasking.And doesn't particularly bother you with the tiny stuff to boot.
14Khz is fantastic for multi period habitat sites..
The option is there to use ID from 14-Khz for 5-Khz and 19-Khz or have it to be separate/exact for each freq..
The EUD Extra Underground Depth is more for dealing with very high mineralization and I have had to look long and hard for some mineral to see its benefit...yet I did find a specimen and it cleaned up a grunt with target under it to a legitimate high tone.
iSAT should be left on zero as it will affect the disc mode too..and offer better unmasking ability and mineral see through..think of it as a filter.my video had it on 1.Tried to show it as stock as I could..things cna be tweaked for more performance.
Battery life very adequate for all day 8-10 hour hunt with room to spare.
You can offset freq in any freq for EMI...and it works very well..Machine is sparky by nature especially in 2 tone and 4 tone the hot rod modes..and I've used offset a few times in urban EMI to cleanly silence EMI on all the freqs..
I enjoy three tone for even heavy iron..and I prefer to set my Hz tones to my liking..you can change the Hz tones and tone breaks in any mode!In three tone I like iron to be 15(150 Hz) and mid tone to be 47(47 Hz) and high tone to be 70(700 hz)...Three tone to me in iron is stellar for really zeroing in on those mid tones yet still allows me to notice the low high tone bounce of large iron and alert me also to a solid high tone( the blood pumper hits)...No need to look at meter..Tone breaks are at 15 ID and I like 65 ID for high tone break..the real deep mid conductors will give a Nice turkey gobble like this!!!Like three ringers at 10 inches or more..Beautiful sound and very telling!!
Auto tracking is very Nice( excellent system ) if required but I use ground grab mostly.and stay locked.
backlight adjustable and very well lit
Nice big ID numbers..easy to navigate menu system with all info right on screen at all times.
Ability to notch any ID number in multi segments and assign iron tone to notched Items if you like and control the volume of that notched item..( yes I can take credit for that Mak/Nok Feature.I like to hear it all no matter what...LOL)
Handgrip is really thick durable rubber and does not slip around on shaft..
Machine can be a little nose heavy but not AT Pro heavy with stock coil Yet it feels so rugged and non flexing shafts It not a real issue to me anyways..I can see someone making a pistol grip straight shaft at some point I bet..since the housing is simply slid on with one screw....Lower rod is carbon fiber and very good quality at that!
Armcuff is now very tall on the sides and secures the arm very nicely its flexible enough to accommodate a coat or bare arm..THANK YOU!!!No more modding of arm cuffs needed!!Should be on all of they're units!!
The best part of the unit is the ability to UNMASK and it does that on a world class level..Nuanced Blendy Bleedy audio!!!HArd not to like Racers/Impacts/Cores/Kruzers after seeing what they can do in trash and iron..Depth is right there with other Vlfs...
With freq choices and tone modes etc..It can be all a person needs in a VLF..A dedicated salt water hunter or prospector may look for specialized equipment but if it's like a racer or Impact and I dare say it is, it should do well on certain salt waters and may be all that person requires.
The MMK offers alot options and Par Excellence build...If you want the Mak/Nok DNA in waterproof setup well this is it..
It lacks some of the modes of the Impact..and one is Mixed mode..((I asked but did not receive LOL))Think STRONG Racer 2 DNA with selectable freqs Like Impact and we have a Hybrid of both in a well thought out design!!Tones do seem a little Crisper/Tighter on the MMK and machine seems a little more sure of itself on masked targets.
Im happy to welcome it to the arsenal as it is waterproof and compact and I can go anywhere even in rain which I have many times so far and maybe hit some lakes this spring and take it to the salt water this summer if i can get time in for a hunt during my daughters Softball World Series..I remember the first time I hunted a salt beach with my Red Racer and 5x10 coil I said then, man I wish I could get this Racer in a waterproof package as its doing well in this Gulf coast surf..Well they did just that and gave us some freq options too!!
Keith
“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla
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Re: Video I did of the Makro Multi Kruzer March 15, 2018 06:25PM |
Tom Slick Wrote:
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> On the Kruzer you can change the tone breaks and t
> he tone for each section of the VDI scale. For ins
> tance: You decide to use 4 Tone mode. You can set
> the lowest tone, say iron to 15 kHz. You decide to
> have nickels be your second tone or section and se
> t it for 60 kHz (pretty high). next section (third
> section based on where you set the tone breaks) is
> set for zinc pennies and anything else in that are
> a of VDI's you set the tone for 30 Khz, and the fo
> rth section you set at the highest tone (70 kHz) a
> nd this covers everything from copper pennies & di
> mes on up. It breaks down to this = Iron very low
> tone (15 kHz) and you can adjust the volume of the
> iron from 10 to 0. next tone is pretty high (60 kH
> z) for nickels, third tone is medium for zincs (30
> kHz) Copper pennies and up are the forth and highe
> st tone (70 kHz). Set the breals where you want, s
> et the tones to what you want, notch out what you
> don't want. Super easy and unlimited combinations.
> How would you like it?
Tom
don't forget that whatever you choose to notch out (if you do) say like square tabs = you can have that notched/# hit iron tone too (just like on Impact) so that you can still hear it but more importantly = it keeps the audio gate open so you get no lag time from one target to the next in report. Pretty ingenious and we can thank Kieth for that idea/feature being implemented
I'm thinking of picking one up for creek/river hunting since it can sift iron and take the abuse in/of those type of environments.
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> On the Kruzer you can change the tone breaks and t
> he tone for each section of the VDI scale. For ins
> tance: You decide to use 4 Tone mode. You can set
> the lowest tone, say iron to 15 kHz. You decide to
> have nickels be your second tone or section and se
> t it for 60 kHz (pretty high). next section (third
> section based on where you set the tone breaks) is
> set for zinc pennies and anything else in that are
> a of VDI's you set the tone for 30 Khz, and the fo
> rth section you set at the highest tone (70 kHz) a
> nd this covers everything from copper pennies & di
> mes on up. It breaks down to this = Iron very low
> tone (15 kHz) and you can adjust the volume of the
> iron from 10 to 0. next tone is pretty high (60 kH
> z) for nickels, third tone is medium for zincs (30
> kHz) Copper pennies and up are the forth and highe
> st tone (70 kHz). Set the breals where you want, s
> et the tones to what you want, notch out what you
> don't want. Super easy and unlimited combinations.
> How would you like it?
Tom
don't forget that whatever you choose to notch out (if you do) say like square tabs = you can have that notched/# hit iron tone too (just like on Impact) so that you can still hear it but more importantly = it keeps the audio gate open so you get no lag time from one target to the next in report. Pretty ingenious and we can thank Kieth for that idea/feature being implemented
I'm thinking of picking one up for creek/river hunting since it can sift iron and take the abuse in/of those type of environments.
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Re: Video I did of the Makro Multi Kruzer March 15, 2018 06:44PM |
MichiganRelicHunter Wrote:
> don't forget that whatever you choose to notch out
> (if you do) say like square tabs = you can have th
> at notched/# hit iron tone too (just like on Impac
> t) so that you can still hear it but more importan
> tly = it keeps the audio gate open so you get no l
> ag time from one target to the next in report. Pre
> tty ingenious and we can thank Kieth for that idea
> /feature being implemented
>
YES. A+ for that one.
> don't forget that whatever you choose to notch out
> (if you do) say like square tabs = you can have th
> at notched/# hit iron tone too (just like on Impac
> t) so that you can still hear it but more importan
> tly = it keeps the audio gate open so you get no l
> ag time from one target to the next in report. Pre
> tty ingenious and we can thank Kieth for that idea
> /feature being implemented
>
YES. A+ for that one.
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Re: Video I did of the Makro Multi Kruzer March 16, 2018 11:10PM |
woodchiphustler Wrote:
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> The iron tone and 2nd tone sound close to the same ?
May seem that way in the video but not so much with good headphones.
Also you can tweak the audio tones, I like to set the high to the highest setting so those high conductors really jump out
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> The iron tone and 2nd tone sound close to the same ?
May seem that way in the video but not so much with good headphones.
Also you can tweak the audio tones, I like to set the high to the highest setting so those high conductors really jump out