Mission & Civil War Buttons,Relics & things

These are my finds from my last 4 hunts at the new site Paul (Old California) & I located & started hunting recently. I didn't know I had some of the buttons shown until after going through the pile of trash of supposed trash of a 5 gallon bucket.

The trash shown is about two thirds of what I dug. Paul had quite a bit of trash but much less than me. Paul's experience sure shows in signal identification.

I'm hoping by removing this trash I won't have to deal with it later and just maybe it will not mask some good targets.

The first picture is of the trash I dug. The second picture is my finds from a 4/8/2014 hunt. The third picture is of the buttons and relics. The fourth picture is the Eagle Cuff Button. The fifth picture is of the Eagle Coat Button( Identification & date help very much appreciated. The sixth picture is of a diamond shaped pattern on a coat button. Again help with identification appreciated. The seventh picture is the back of the button in picture six. Picture 8 is a #27 Phoenix Button. Picture 9 is a #2 Phoenix Button and picture 10 is Los Banos, California Token.

In picture # 3 row 1,the first item is part of a Ball Button. The nest 2 items a slightly convexed plain Buttons. The 4th item is the Eagle Cuff Button. Next is the Diamond shaped design button, Nex the Eagle Coat Button and then the inside of a 2 piece button.

Row 2--First 3 items ?,Next 2 items are the Phoenix Buttons and the next 2 are thick heavy coat button-Brass.

Row 3- First item ?.Next is a saddle ornament. Then the Los Banes, Ca. Token. Next item is a .50 musket Ball. Next is a brass ornament.

Row 4- Part of an ink bottle, then a .50 shell casing--No identification. Next is .375 Winchester shell casing.Rest of row relic stuff .

Last row--Part of a hand tool that would have a hammer on the other end and a musket trigger part ?

Thanks for looking and I hope this wasn't to winded.

El

Some of these are fairly high-value items. Love that Los Banos, CAL 10-Cent token. Even bent...... it'll have good value. That's where Fisher Research Laboratory was.
Buttons appear to be from 1830's - 1860's. (Backmarks will tell).

Comgrats on some great signals!!!! It'd be nice to hear a button signal but have about forgot what they sound like. CONGRATS and thanks for the pics!!!!

Very nice Elbert!

Looks like a great spot.

Really nice buttons especially the eagles. Where's all the coins? Gotta be gold one there some where.

Aaron

Congratulations El!! Great finds bud! Still looking for my first Phoenix button.

Grat finds I know the feeling of working hard and having it pay off

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Nice digs..

look those Phoenix buttons up.

interesting story on them.

keith

Those are some very interesting finds there, well worth digging all the trash.

Congrats on the finds.

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Great hunt Elbert, all well deserved finds.
Corey

I didn't know anything about them Keith.....thanks!

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Super neat finds El you sure did good! Like I was saying the site should be called button hill with all the buttons surfacing.

I'll take a look at my button book on those two eagle buttons, get back with you.

The No. 2 Phoenix button has the cannon this particular one eludes my Phoenix collection, great score with this one real rare one to find.

Can't wait to see these finds up close, will bring the button and token book.

Congrats El!
Paul

Thanks Tom. Yes, Fisher Lab was just over the hill from me, about 40 minutes away. I visited there many times. As far as I can tell there is no picture of the token in any publication. I did find history on Ben Orogenen and the location of his bar. The "Won-Ton". Paul (Old California) is checking his token books to see if he can find out anything.

Kevin B and MichiganRelicHunter--Thank you for the remarks. Very much appreciated.

Aaron-- Paul(Old California) got them. He dug a Seated Dime and some Reales and Reale Buttons. He also keeps telling me there has to be coins in there including a gold coin . Thank you.

dealthray-- I've been detecting for quite awhile and maybe dug and couple of buttons and one seated dime until now. These are my first Phoenix Buttons. Yours will come. Thanks.

Thanks LowBoy, I know what you mean.

Keith, thanks , I also have a 1/2 inch thick report on the buttons by an archeologist.

Digs_Alot and docbars, thank you and thanks for viewing.

Thanks Paul--Hopefully see you this weekend.

BTW, if anyone has any information on the bigger Eagle Button or any of the others I sure would appreciate it.

Thanks again everyone for looking.

El

Good link Aaron..

They dont show up on the East coast but rarely..

Elton the eagle buttons are pre civil war period..

the one that in real bad shape look 1840's.

the one with the I in the shield is like 1850s

the Toe Tap is around the civil war period right before maybe...

Toe taps that look like Swiss cheeese holes are usually post civil war period...the ones like you have there with the small pinholes in it seem to be pre civilwar and up to at least..

Looking through your trash I find it unique that your horsehoes are whole and thick..

Im used to hard riding cavalry shoes in my spots..they will be halves and thin..A horseshoe will break in the toe from hard riding..full gallop the toe hits the ground first..Cavalry wore out some Shoes..and some Horses..

Keith

El,

This site will eventfully give up a Bust or two, More early seated and a few more reales.

See you soon!

Keith, We are finding allot of Ox shoes here which is normal back then Ox carts were used on this old road these are the smaller half shoes. We fine these up in Gold County too Ox were used to cart heavy loads.

Got to love iron signals, Once in a while a nice iron relic will surface

Paul (Ca)



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Great information Keith. Thank you.

Sure would like to dig a bust Paul. See you this weekend.

El