Lots of great knowledgeable people on this forum. What do you do for a living?

Denso is who I work for. You can keep trying (key word...trying) to talk down to me like your a big shot. You talk big behind a computer but face to face I bet you couldn't even look me in the eye.

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You can keep trying (key word...trying) to talk down to me ...

Riiiight...

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You probably wouldn't even make it as a temp janitor at our place. Lol

No wonder you're not managing anyone anymore...

Shut down the plant to clean it, when orders are tight, just so Mr big can stroll thru, ..... that guy needs a good kick in the slats! What an arrogent POS.
Daniel, I feel for you working at a place like that.
When I lived in Wi, I bumped into Herb Kohler on occasion. He is worth hundreds of millions, and he was a decent guy to talk to. He respected his workers and treated me, a service tech with respect. Armed guards??? nope.

My money is on Daniel.

I'm not surprised that they are cleaning / painting / wiping down robots / fixing lighting when big shots come in. That's common in the industry. But they aren't shutting down production in any significant way to do that. It would be crazy.

Heck, I've seen them clean up when "Big Shots" from the OEM customer come in...

I have six years in the US Army as a Senior Radio Repairman 31E. I now work as a Project Engineer (Design and install) . I also have a Wastewater Treatment License and fill in when required as an Environmental Specialist. I am 62 years old and plan to work as long as my legs don't wobble..... I got my fist job at age 12 picking peaches and I have worked every year since....

Tom in SC

Big Shots and Mr. Bigs have their own section in the DSM IV: 301.81

Yep cleaning and tiding things up during any down time or when things are running good is one thing. But honestly...we've had times when we had been working 7 days a week for months on end, to make shipments to customers...and then when a big visit was coming up, they make the WHOLE PLANT shut down for an hour or two to clean. When its a really big visit from one of the high up CEOs, they actually send their own audit crews out into the plant about 2 weeks before the big whig gets there, and they send out a big list of everything they want done before the big visit. When the main guru showed up, they shut us down for 2 entire shifts to clean and make ready for him. I remember that was one time we were working a lot of OT and had been there every weekend. One of the holidays was coming up and we were told we might get it off if we worked a couple more full weekends. We did so...and then they shut the whole plant down for 2 shifts to clean for this guy. And ended up having to work the holiday and weekend. Seems like it was Memorial Day if I remember right.

That's just how it is in manufacturing any more. You are expendable and you are a replaceable/renewable resource. That's how HR looks at it. There are not a lot of factories left in this area and we have more people than we do jobs for the people. So for every person filling a job...there is probably 10 more waiting for a chance to grab it out from under you. It's not a career to me...it's just a paycheck. I don't necessarily like it but they pay me to do it...not to like doing it.

On the note of big dogs and confrontations. I had one boss that let his job go to his head. He thought because he was the boss he could talk to people like they were dogs and nobody would do anything about it. He started in on me one day, cussing this and that and I stopped him mid sentence. Number one. Nobody cusses me. If I done something wrong...scold me, write me up, do whatever. But I will shut you down when the cussing starts. I told him that inside the factory, he was the boss and that if I wanted to keep my job I was limited to what I could do or say. But outside of there...he was nothing, and one day, being that it is a small town, I would eventually run into him out in town some place, and out there, he would have no "power" to hide behind. He changed his tune right quick as I think it suddenly registered as to what I was getting at.



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Daniel, I don't know why you are so worried about your job security. Robotic maintenance techs are the most valued commodity in any modern manufacturing company, especially in the automotive world. The BMW techs routinely earn over $100K/yr and are generally treated better than salaried types like me. Denso TN is not one of our suppliers so we have no issue poaching you from a Tier-1.

BMW fires a few people every year, hourly and salaried, for abusive language on the floor. It's just not tolerated here. We're very PC here... an off-color, sexist, anti-gay or Muslim bashing slur will get you suspended fast.

It's in our company policy that cursing is against the rules. But its one of those areas where it doesn't get enforced. I would imagine the only way it would get brought up would be if they were looking hard for a reason to let someone go, and it was one of the first infractions they caught said person doing.

Job security...not so much here. Like I say, jobs are still scarce around here. There's only two factories that have been growing and hiring between 200-400+ people in the last yr and that is Denso and Volkswagen. Sure, I could move somewhere else and might even make more $. People in my position make approx $60k a yr without benefits added in. We don't make as much as some other places but the cost of living here is lower than other places too. I have roots here and own 96 acres of land here. I was born here. And plan on dying here too. As long as I can make a good living and have $ to live comfortably, I am content.

Christian bashing is ok in PC enviroments,however.

Doc, I thought Christians were used to taking a little abuse for their faith? It seems to me that they seem to be doing a lot of whining as of late.

And no... religious bashing of any kind is not tolerated in my place of work. Funny, the Christians I know seem to have the biggest problem with that.

Daniel, you're safer than you think you are.

My buddy in east Cleveland OH was recently laid off and turned down an offer on the far west side of town. WTF? Take the job and move! Heck, I'm a mercenary. I'd move to China if the opportunity was right.

go-rebels Wrote:
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> Doc, I thought Christians were used to taking a
> little abuse for their faith? It seems to me that
> they seem to be doing a lot of whining as of
> late.
>
> And no... religious bashing of any kind is not
> tolerated in my place of work. Funny, the
> Christians I know seem to have the biggest problem
> with that.

So you are getting a little Christian bashing in--the Christians you know seem to have the most trouble/whining etc. But don't worry,handling blow hards such as you is really pretty simple---just give them enough rope and they will hang themselves."Useful Idiots" don't see it coming.

Why don't people stick to the subject posted, this was a good thread and now has turned sideways.

Go back and see where Mr. Big ,while attempting to self promote, began to demean Daniel,one of the most helpful and unassuming members on the forum. This is where the"side ways" began and hopefully Mr. Big gets the message that " color us impressed" ain't gonna happen and we can return to normal.

Gee, another great thread ruined because of "Male Answer Syndrome"

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Let us all briefly meditate on this theme.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

I apologize Guvmore. Doc just was too easy a mark...

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As a parallel follow-up, I wonder how long people plan to work? Or more accurately, how long they want to work. Tmanly says he's working till he falls. My target is 66, then maybe some consulting. For all the pressure, the fighting with suppliers and hassles with travel, I enjoy the work.

lytle78 Wrote:
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> Gee, another great thread ruined because of "Male
> Answer Syndrome"
>
> [www.cs.virginia.edu]
>
> Let us all briefly meditate on this theme.

Rick - I really liked reading the "Male Answer Syndrome". I was taking a sip of Lagunitas " Little Sumpin' " when I read about Eskimo's having rubber teeth and spewed a mouthful on my tablet. This made me think that the answers get even more transparent after a few 12 oz curls.

Thanks for sharing.

Now on to the OP topic.

I am recently retired (last November) and moved to Omak, WA which is in the north central part of the state about 60 miles below the Canadian border. Prior to retirement I was a rail transit systems (traction power, overhead contact, train signaling, & communications) construction & integration manager. My last project was Oakland, CA. My employer advised me my next assignment would be in the DC area or in Calgary, Canada. I said no way and took early retirement at age 62. Previous assignments were in Houston, TX, Phoenix, AZ, Dallas, TX, San Francisco, CA. and Baltimore, MD.

I started detecting in 1980 with a Whies 6DB. One of the fast swing lunch box motion detectors. I've had many detectors since and sold my F75 SE last spring and got a V3i to go with my MXT Pro.

I'll need to change my screen name since I no longer live in the East Bay. I go by ArizFlash on the other forums.

Alan Friend in Omak.

go-rebels Wrote:
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> As a parallel follow-up, I wonder how long people
> plan to work? Or more accurately, how long they
> want to work. Tmanly says he's working till he
> falls. My target is 66, then maybe some
> consulting. For all the pressure, the fighting
> with suppliers and hassles with travel, I enjoy
> the work.


I often thought it was a bit ironic that we work so we don't need to work like going to war for peace The first thought that comes to mind re your question is how well we enjoy our work
should partly answer how long we want to work.
My job was a bit stressfull doing so many service calls a day with constant technology changes, I enjoyed all the customers but retired at age 55 and never looked back, HH

I worked for many name brand's such as GE, Maytag as a service tech in shop and on call, even had dinner with Jessie White he had a movie roll in the movie Harvey.

The Europeans work to live.

The Americans live to work.

Without hitting the calculator, and speaking social security.... is it better to retire at 62 verses 66?

What I don't like about my job is, it takes me too long to recoup. I use to be able to do other things after work. Now, at 62, I have to get home and get off my feet....nothing left.

I'm going to keep on plugging for another 4 years and see where I stand....hopefully I still am.

The company I work for is a world wide conglomerate. Presidents are a dime a dozen, each division has its own president, then there are 4 or 5 vice presidents under him. The big boss is the CEO, he is the one you never see except in video conferences for annual state of the company addresses, he is the one with the bodyguards.

62 gets you reduced social security. 66 gets me maximum benefits for the year I was born.

Die at 70 and, financially, you did better off retiring at 62. Die at 85 and you will do better off retiring at 66.

I live to work.

Thanks go-rebels. I guess one can guess a ball park time of death by the age their fathers and G-fathers lived....not counting unforeseen occurrence.
Four years will go by fast I'm sure because I'm going to be a grandpa this September.....bout time.

You watch too many European movies :-)

The European way of living depicted by the tourist industry and the film industry is about as realistic as an iceberg floating around in the sahara.

I don't live to work,... it just kinda turned out that way.

go-rebels Wrote:
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> The Europeans work to live.
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> The Americans live to work.

HH
Johnb

Well let's see here. Die hard Christian, 44 years old, kill PESTS for a living, and have been metal detecting parks in Indiana, but try to do mostly CW relic sites in Kentucky where we have permission. Been detecting for about 15 years now and got interested in the hobby from some of my best friends, who have family lineage ties to the CW.