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jmaryt Wrote:
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> NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> > Should be simul multi-freq...... analogous to
> the
> > CZ platform.
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> simultaneously transmitting multiple
> "low" frequencies,combined with a
> "lightening" quick proc
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
After my testing of various CZ of all makes. I'm not buying the BS that 1021s are any better than the rest. There all deep. I'm done with speculation and hearsay. If one machine or brand is better at something than i say prove it. I did !
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
If you use ARA. They Chemically melt your gold. In turn leaving any good stones un touched. Any CZs will be frosted. Like others said you can clean it and sell too.
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
While your are has been hunted hard. The targets you are finding are the ones that the onlder machines have masked out. Soil conditions count on how deep targets sink over the years But ! For the most part 100 year old coins are not going to be any deeper than 7-8in. Most hunters i know of that don't find anything when they think they should always try to go deeper. Only to find nothing ther
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Just to add. The CZ-20/21 is the only card Fisher has for a salt water machine to compete with whats out there. Minelab upped the price on the Excal and Sov GT. Seems like ML wishes that technology would go away too. But since they have to support there machines. Your going to pay for it. It would be interesting to know if Fisher plans on building a new water machine to replace the CZs ?
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> Remember to put your sensitivity on '10' (maximum)
> whilst in auto-tune mode on a CZ.
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> A Sens setting of '6' in ID mode............ vs
> ................ a Sens of '6' in auto-tune mode
> are COMPLETELY different.
In my depth video with the CZ-21. I did try Au
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Therover61, one thing i made sure to try during the NJ hunt with the guys. Was trying the two diffrent ground balance while hunting. I couldn't tell a diffrence and both ways got the same result. Even in the dry where i could GB. Both ways gave the same GB number. I just find the PP method faster to do.
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Shultzie, The test targets were on the end of seamstress tape measures. Not mine but another members of this forum. They were on the money.
I think Fisher uses the 8 inch air test while calibrating the machines. I remember Tom talking about how it was done. a dime rotating on the end of a dowel. I think people are confusing that with end result. Synth is right though. I'm lucky to get 8
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
The three targets were 12,13 and 15 inches deep. The target farthest to the left of the vid was 15in. Three machines used "not shown in the Video were the CZ "mine" At Pro and a Amped Excal.
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Well said indeed. I agree about machines of the past. Seems like more "hands on work" went into them. I don't think they will ever get the depth the machines of the past will get. Machines of today are remarkable in trash seperation and "un"masking but no where near the depth. I think the depth race is long over. Cheaper build quality and assembly line production by way o
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
How do we know a hot CZ wasn't the last one of the day to be adjusted. Extra time left on the clock to super tune but not enough to start a new one. =0p
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> Wouldn't it be nice if they had a hot one come
> across their bench...... then figured out 'why' it
> is hot.............. and then figured out how to
> make all of the new production units just as hot?
This +100
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Keith, My CZ-21 has that. It's a QC build sheet with name of who built it, calibrated it etc. I'm trying to figure out why my CZ is hotter than others ? or are other CZ just as hot ? Ill post a video later today of the test we did.
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
NASA-Tom Wrote:
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> Mineralization does exactly this............. on
> any unit.......... and it sure hinders
> 'usability'.
I'm not comming out with all the info just yet on the test. My CZ wasn't erratic, just falsed a little. I think Syths little AT did great for what it is. My suprise came from other d
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Trying to do some comparisons to narrow some things down. Those who have your build sheets care to share ??
My machine CZ-21 2010 build date
Calibrated by Lupe
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Giving credit where it's due. My testing with other hunters this weekend useing a 2010 CZ-21. Among the top beach machines out there it was deeper than anything there. 12,13 and 15 inches on the wet salt slope. Gold rings for all three depths. the CZ was the only machine that would hit the 15 inch target. So newer built CZ getting the great depth there known for.
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Tom you are correct and yes the one ive seen do. Not all beaches but most that i hunt on. Could it be the heavy concetration of black sand ?
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Ive been doing some heavy testing with the CZ on my NE salt beaches. This is a 2010 CZ-21 with 10" coil. This isn't a "how do i " but more of a "want to know" and "does it matter". On the wet salt slope,waters edge or in the water. It's common knowledge that the CZ doesn't ground balance all the way. When this happens i just leave it at 1. My ques
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EZrider
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Therover
Try this with both the ETrac and CZ. Take a pull off tab "beaver tail" and test it with the ETrac should come in at about 12-26. Now take a heavy gold ring such as a big mans gold ring or class ring. Something that will come close to the ETracs 12-26-12-28 mark.
Now take the same ring and put the Disc on 2 and see if the CZ will pick it up. As stupid as it sounds the CZ
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Therover61
Have you experianced the same mixed signals with gold at the beach "CZ" ? The beach settings i used on the ET the day of the test was right out of Andys book. The CZ still hit it clean before any of the other machines would. The ETrac was the machine that found the test ring in the first place "in dry sand".
Every gold that ive found this year at the beach.
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
You know how were told not to discrim so we can hear a good target next to a bad one ? I think what ML did with some of the ETracs filtering is alow the machine to recive the disced signal but not let the audio to come though. Where as some other machines "even ML" block out the signal all together. I wonder if this is because it a threshold type of machine and not a silent search type.
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EZrider
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> The CZ is a great machines, make no mistake about
> it, and it's as close to an E-trac/Explorer as
> First Texas has right now.
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> A couple of weeks ago I spent a week hunting
> remote Nevada sites/ghost towns with three other
> friends. The machines used were the CZ3D, F75 SE,
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