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I'll let you guess where this info came from. It seems this gent left out what maybe the most imporant difference between these 2 detectors when trying to detect in mineralized ground as there seems according to the Vx3 operators manual -No way to offset the ground balance.
Here's the info giving theVX3 Default Settings
Here's a "rule of thumb" for VX3 owners or p
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Thanks Keith, I have asked this question before concerning the White's machine I mentioned on the findmall forum and the reply I got from the moderator was in so many words" the ground tracking offset is for meteorite hunting and will not aid in coin hunting". To add there is nothing that you talked about concerning acquiring the extra depth mentioned anywhere on the white's
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Will the "ground tracking offset" as it's called on the White's V3i or "ground balance offset" as it's called on the Fisher F75se; if done properly, increase the detection depth while operating in the discrimination mode when hunting in medium to high mineralized ground? And if so how much depth and how would a person know how to adjust it to the proper setti
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
So Keith, is this soil density you mention also relate to the ground being moist or dry. And to also ask. Say it rains a couple inches and the ground is soaked. What effects are caused by the excessive moisture? Or maybe better asked, "Will my detector see deeper in soaking wet ground as opposed to moist or dry"?
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Just exactly what's in medium to high mineralized soil that's not in mild mineralized soil? What are the exact elements? And let's say you have a site that has nails that were deposited 150-200 years ago and may have started to decompose. Do these decomposed nails raise the mineralization level in the soil? And if they are not decomposed do they still have the "effect"
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
That's why a good pinpointer can help, but on deeper targets even a pinpointer may not see the target unless you keep digging. And when iron is in the hole with your treasure this can only complicate the matter. It really comes down to trusting your machine and keep digging until you are fully satisfied.
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
I wonder just what is happening inside this smart coil. It seems some say the depth readings are correct when going from the stock 11" to the 6 coil.. So the smart coil must be talking to the CTX's processor.
I would like to know more about these so called "smartcoils". And I wonder just how small a target it will detect as compared to stock 11" coil. And the compari
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tnsharpshooter
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Went to my mother in law's house this morning. Got the CTX out running in combine mode, ferrous coin, fast recovery, deep off in auto plus 1 sensivity. Hunting around the front of the house just of the steps. Another place I've hunted hard with etrac and V3i. My first coin (1909 wheat no vdb) I actually dug with my V3i was only about 12 feet from the front steps almost 2 years ago..
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
I actually like the sizing pinpoint better vs normal. In clean ground I want to know the size of target first and foremost, hence sizing pinpoint. I used the long tone when I used the etrac so I stayed with on CTX. What's interesting is how both the ferrous and conductive numbers seem to hang in there even with a target smothered in iron when using ferrous coin target separation. After t
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Albert I was running auto plus 2 and 3, combined mode, with ferrous coin, fast recovery, deep off, using long tone. What's nice about this report is I know I've hit this spot from several angles using various machines. And since my experience with the CTX is low I almost left the first target in the ground even though the CTX was a singing over this one little spot giving only a two w
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
I went to a site this morning I've had some luck with in the past. Couldn't hunt long because of the heat. This place was an old house site with loads of iron. There is a depression about 100 ft from the homesite. The old locals said it was a cistern. It has since been filled in several times since 1992 by the current landowner. Anyway, I'd hunted the stretch between the home
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
I have both the F75se and the V3i. The Vx3 basically is a less adjustable V3i. You basically get 4 less filters on the Vx3 compared to V3i, but guess what most detectorists really only use the filters provided with the Vx3 when using the more adjustable V3i. What will you be hunting? And where? The F75se is a pleasure to swing, Vx3 not so much weight/balance wise. If you plan to hunt primar
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
This is all good information. One needs to remember not all detectors/coils act the same when around iron. It seems some detectors and or coil setups partially shut down, meaning the span of detection narrows which indeed calls for very small coil advancement as one sweeps over the ground. A little test I did back in Feb this year. I would like to run this same test using a maybe a steel BB
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
That's what makes detecting fun. And yes, I agree with your post. Something I've been guilty of is making a find. Dig the find and for whatever reason get out of position and continue to detect. Return later to this spot make another find real close to the first. Can see the plug from previous dig and remember the direction from which I was detecting originally. It's remarkab
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Goodmore,
I didn't reach any kind of conclusion between the 2 detectors. Just 1 target in the ground undisturbed. And yes more comparisons would make a stronger case for one to draw a better conclusion. I will slowly do some more comparisons in the future and plan on including the etrac as well.
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Went back to the churchyard early this morning that I'd visited yesterday. Except today I took the CTX and the White's V3i to maybe do some comparison testing before the heat moves in. Started with CTX. Turned it on bobbed the coil a few times auto sensivity went to 24 so I began to sweep. It didn't take but about 8 sweeps and I got a good 12-43 signal with great tone showing 6
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Albert,
I would never put a percentage(number on how good or worse one detector performs over/under the other). Let's assume for the moment both the etrac and CTX will hit(see) the same targets in the same ground equally. We both know the etrac falses much more than CTX, correct? The CTX's audio is better than etrac's (cleaner) correct? The CTX's screen gives more inform
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Did a short hunt at daylight this morning(about 1 hr) to beat the heat. Finds: 1 -1946 quarter, 2 merc dimes, 1 IH, and 6 wheats, ring, and misc. Now I have had my CTX for 8 days now and I've posted a few posts stating I was digging off to the side a lot when recovering my coins. I've been hunting a lot of places I've pounded before with 2 quality detectors. The same thing happene
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
I too have considered such a move, but never did it. I have offered to hunt this one man's property only for my coin of choice. I even encouraged him to participate or watch. So far he's not taken me up on my offer. I would only give this advice. Sounds like this yard needs to be hunted numerous times with maybe different ground conditions too. The couple may think $100 for each t
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tnsharpshooter
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Well, you mentioned a lot in your post. I believe the major metal detector manufacturers know where their different units stand performance wise when compared to the competition. They do test and compare the electronics engineering. All would like to do better, but even if they can it usually comes with a price. Granted things like color screens, waterproofing, GPS, wireless headphone setups,
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Well it rained all day but I didn't let that stop me..With wallet in sandwich bag I hit the treasure trail. I received my ctx yesterday around 2:00 pm CDST. I played with it until 9:00 pm last night. I didn't like combined mode. Way too busy for me. So this morning at 5 am I opted for 50 conductive with open screen down to 25 ferrous. I ran mostly in auto. CTX stayed around 27/28 auto s
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
The KISS principle needs to apply to any probe. Keep the weight down. Make it durable on the probe end, good battery life, waterprooof, external light, be able to sense on dime sized target to 4 inches, not look like a pistol, and not cost a fortune. Oh wait, we already have one that almost meets all the criteria above-Garrett pro pointer. It's hard to beat really. And to even think tha
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Well, weight would be a driving factor for a gal. The fisher f75se/75/70 is a good light setup.
If performance and $$ are the driving factors the at pro is a good one but may be too heavy.
Tesoro are good detectors for the $$$ and are light as a feather.
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I can almost buy the at pro, fisher f75se, fisher cz3d, and an Ace 250 all new for the price of one each minelab CTX 3030. Go fig
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Daniel you are correct. I live about 70 mile due west nw Crossville. The soil in my area at river level seems ok, F75 GB at 54. If you start climbing and hunt on the highland rim elev 900-1000 ft the soil is more red clay. I don't know how mineralized but my etrac won't autosense as high. I haven't hunted outside of a 30 mile radius of my residence but am guessing mineralizat
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I doubt it. It's amusing to read some threads and other threads are indeed educational. Metal detecting is getting better I suppose. You would think with all the geniuses and superior minded people/scientists coupled with the invention of computers/ICs, a detector that stands clearly above all others would be in play. Are we really already that close to peak performance? Is it related
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Goodmore, objective detector comparisons done in the field are a good thing. Who knows the CTX may shed light on making a detectorists using an etrac better. And I'll bet the farm when minelab was designing/testing the CTX a white's V3i, F75se, Deus, Etrac, etc were being looked at and compared very closely. And I'm not a person who tries to take an indefensible point and try a
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