New Fisher Manta

a video on the bottom of cane

[www.youtube.com]


Aaron Wrote:
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> LEJAG,
>
> How does the AQUAMANTA sound off on broken rings s
> uch as the one in your photo?
>
> Also on crucifixes?
>
> Thanks
>
> Aaron

he gives the same sound on the break ring
a very fine sound
but less deep / there is no more resonance (ring)
same for targets with different shapes
crucifix, earring ...

+ do not test with nikel or silver coin
when you have a
gold / just gold / nothing but gold

it is there, that it brings all the difference
and on gold, it is unbeatable

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Detector used : Fisher Aquamanta /

Pulsepower Goldscan 5c / Aquastar / Goldquest SSV3 / Nexus Coronado / Vista Gold

Beyonder…… the F75 LTD was released in Sept. 2009 (with the original F75 release in 2007).

Andrew...….. THAT'S the kind of data I'm looking for. Even though w/huge 15" coil...…. the data is still valid.

Ab. I’m pretty sure Alexandre Tartar is not a liar or a charlatan. He made the video you are referring to. I believe that the results shown are the actual results.

Rick Kempf
Gold Canyon AZ- where there is no gold

LE.JAG Wrote:
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> a video on the bottom of cane
>
> [www.youtube.com]
> e=youtu.be
>
>
> Aaron Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LEJAG,
> >
> > How does the AQUAMANTA sound off on broken rings
> s
> > uch as the one in your photo?
> >
> > Also on crucifixes?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Aaron
>
> he gives the same sound on the break ring
> a very fine sound
> but less deep / there is no more resonance (ring)
> same for targets with different shapes
> crucifix, earring ...
>
> + do not test with nikel or silver coin
> when you have a
> gold / just gold / nothing but gold
>
> it is there, that it brings all the difference
> and on gold, it is unbeatable

LEJAG, you YouTube link is not working....,

Aaron



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/13/2019 10:46PM by Aaron.

lytle78-Never said he was lying, just saying the video doesn't show the tape measure. Even at 41 cm when the video stops the GPX is giving a strong dig signal, one I would dig anyway. Just basing it on what I saw nothing more.

I am following here.
Well seems it is a pulse induction detector.
And is waterproof.

I’ll go out on a limb and say likely between GPX 4500 price and GPX 5000 price.

You gotta pay to play these days.
And if the detector is doing some thing highly beneficial other pulse detectors can’t do,,why would it be cheaper??
Be sorta dumb wouldn’t it ??

A 3.5 lb waterproof pulse induction unit doesn’t sound so bad.
Sounds a lot better than a 4 pound VLF detector.
Knowing PI units require more juice hence battery is generally heaveor vs VLF detector.

Lot of rants in this thread, premature if you ask me.
Folks have been bitching about First Texas releasing something new.
Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs later.

So folks seems are getting their wish yet they are still bitching.

First Texas seems is dammed if they do and dammed if they don’t release some thing new tech wise.
Go figure.

I’ll keep following and be patient.
First Texas I am sure wants this release spic and span.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 12:34AM by tnsharpshooter.

Abenson Wrote:
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> lytle78-Never said he was lying, just saying the v
> ideo doesn't show the tape measure. Even at 41 cm
> when the video stops the GPX is giving a strong di
> g signal, one I would dig anyway. Just basing it o
> n what I saw nothing more.


Where is this video?

Aaron

Aaron-This video was 5 years ago so I'm sure many improvements have been made on the Manta since then. I simply made an observation about the video,we don't know what the settings on the GPX were either so we can only guess how it performed against the Manta. Time will tell as people buy and compare it to other PI's.
YouTube

I think the smartest thing they could do would be to introduce the new Impulse for under $1000.

.

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Lot of rants in this thread, premature if you ask
> me.
> Folks have been bitching about First Texas releasi
> ng something new.
> Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs later.
>
> So folks seems are getting their wish yet they are
> still bitching.

Haven't you learned yet? There is a contingent for that is ALL they do. Every time a new detector is about to be released there are ALWAYS people who live just to run it down. Every detector I have watched in the last 10 years has gotten trashed before anyone even has it in their hands. The bigger the company that makes it, the more haters that jump onto the dogpile.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 01:53AM by silverfiend.

silverfiend Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Lot of rants in this thread, premature if you as
> k
> > me.
> > Folks have been bitching about First Texas relea
> si
> > ng something new.
> > Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs later.
> >
> > So folks seems are getting their wish yet they a
> re
> > still bitching.
>
> Haven't you learned yet? There is a contingent fo
> r that is ALL they do. Every time a new detector
> is about to be released there are ALWAYS people wh
> o live just to run it down. Every detector I have
> watched in the last 10 years has gotten trashed be
> fore anyone even has it in their hands. The bigge
> r the company that makes it, the more haters that
> jump onto the dogpile.

Sure, I have been watching.
Ole Beyonder had so many conspiracy theories going on with EQx.
Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL

Goodmore was another one who frowned on EQX when released.
Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL

tn, I think you should update your thread title to :


Old Fisher Manta

canslawhero Wrote:
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> tn, I think you should update your thread title to
> :
>
>
> Old Fisher Manta

Good idea. Maybe Frank will amend title with actual name of detector.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 02:09AM by tnsharpshooter.

Questions about new tech can often appear to come off as a HATER. Patience is a virtue ...... unless we are waiting on a new detector that we want some one to try BEFORE we buy one lol. I certainly hope its not priced that high TNN. Those machines are being used for gold, relic and even beach hunting..... mostly in the gold fields where there was a real boom. As was stated ..... beach machine...... but most will only be using it on wet sand and in the water.....just like other PIs that are waterproof. There is the TDI....... and the Nox does what most people want...... and the MDT... well PI depth there with its unique salt balance. Much like the CTX .... its going to have to sell its self with a big sticker..... which took a little time.

Dew wrote: “Much like the CTX .... its going to have to sell its self with a big sticker..... which took a little time.”

That’s true, and it’s also the case w the DEUS. I was one of the first ones in the U.S. and first in Michigan to owe one.

Very little was discussed or people that used here.

It only seems like lately on this forum it’s gained popularity and it’s been here since 2011!

Aaron

dont mix up hater and worried maybe futur customer, generaly a hater is not argumentative he just hate for the sake of it.
I dont consider myself like a hater, ive followed this machine for so long you weren't even speaking about it in the us forums.

But we could do as well a comparaison between blinded fanboy and wise customer.
I personally think that when you are pouring 800$ at least on a hobby it has to be a wise choice before pulling the trigger and i will do at least few month of market study prior to that. 800$ is almost minimum wage (1200 euro) and even for France it's not a small amount, as i believe most of md user are in the middle class maybe lower in France, iam personally in the lower range i dont care to say it.
Btw most of the time we pay the same price than you so 800$ translate to 800euro thanks to the vat.

dewcon4414 Wrote:
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> Questions about new tech can often appear to come
> off as a HATER. Patience is a virtue ...... unle
> ss we are waiting on a new detector that we want s
> ome one to try BEFORE we buy one lol. I certainl
> y hope its not priced that high TNN. Those machi
> nes are being used for gold, relic and even beach
> hunting..... mostly in the gold fields where there
> was a real boom. As was stated ..... beach machi
> ne...... but most will only be using it on wet san
> d and in the water.....just like other PIs that ar
> e waterproof. There is the TDI....... and the No
> x does what most people want...... and the MDT...
> well PI depth there with its unique salt balance.
> Much like the CTX .... its going to have to sell i
> ts self with a big sticker..... which took a littl
> e time.


CTX was off shoot of Etrac and explorer line. So some trust already built in for folks with it.

This detector model Impulse not so much.
Folks will likely be more leery. As expected.
And the Tarsacci being available and priced like it is could make folks hedge a bit.

Imo time for Official First Texas Rep to chime in with info like warranty, MSRP in US $$
Target date for official release.
Target date for User’s Manual debut.
Warranty period.
And equipment to be offered like headphones, etc as far as buying solo or in detector package(s) available. With MSRP data.
Actual model availability as far as world/country standpoint early on release wise.



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 11:32AM by tnsharpshooter.

Personally...... id just like to see a manual. I can get a lot of info there. It wasnt that they were leery of the CTX..... they wanted to see if the machine justified the price. Did it? I think all our jaws dropped when the Nox price was released. Theres a wide gap..... between it and MOST water machine period. No doubt PRICING will be important....... over price it and people will continue buying the Nox.......its a multi use machine. It wont take long to tell if its over priced...... we are brutal in that respect.

Does the headphones come out the back? Also, people quickly came out with a way to get more JUICE to the coil on the TDI. Im assuming this machine has sealed batteries.... and you wont be able to do that? Wouldnt that be interesting. So..... is this like a mono coil.... big mono if it is.... PPing could be difficult especially if you cant get that coil in the hole out there.......going to be a LOT MORE digging because of depth AND PPing.

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> silverfiend Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----
> >
> > > Lot of rants in this thread, premature if you
> as
> > k
> > > me.
> > > Folks have been bitching about First Texas rel
> ea
> > si
> > > ng something new.
> > > Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs later.
> > >
> > > So folks seems are getting their wish yet they
> a
> > re
> > > still bitching.
> >
> > Haven't you learned yet? There is a contingent
> fo
> > r that is ALL they do. Every time a new detecto
> r
> > is about to be released there are ALWAYS people
> wh
> > o live just to run it down. Every detector I ha
> ve
> > watched in the last 10 years has gotten trashed
> be
> > fore anyone even has it in their hands. The big
> ge
> > r the company that makes it, the more haters tha
> t
> > jump onto the dogpile.
>
> Sure, I have been watching.
> Ole Beyonder had so many conspiracy theories going
> on with EQx.
> Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
>
> Goodmore was another one who frowned on EQX when r
> eleased.
> Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL

AND here we go! I liked it so much I bought two actually. Just because I was critical about the release date, doesn't mean I hate and won't buy it.

Isn't it the right of the consumer to ask questions? Since when is being critical considered hate or is this personal bias? Money is tight and it pays huge to look for every available option. There was a priced discussed and that is what us consumers were reacting to. It was only later that, that price, was found out to be incorrect.

As for my SO many conspiracy theories, perhaps you are a bit too sheltered to think that a conspiracy can't happen...just like that college admission scam that's in the news. That was a conspiracy on a grand scale with fake websites and many different facets. You are naive to think it can't happen.

I may be critical about a company, but that doesn't mean I hate it. Allow me the ability to exercise my free speech(which is permitted here) and provoke some critical context to a subject rather than just drink the kool aid.

"It's only when we lost everything, that we are free to do anything"

Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > silverfiend Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----
> > > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > > -----
> > >
> > > > Lot of rants in this thread, premature if yo
> u
> > as
> > > k
> > > > me.
> > > > Folks have been bitching about First Texas r
> el
> > ea
> > > si
> > > > ng something new.
> > > > Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs later.
> > > >
> > > > So folks seems are getting their wish yet th
> ey
> > a
> > > re
> > > > still bitching.
> > >
> > > Haven't you learned yet? There is a contingen
> t
> > fo
> > > r that is ALL they do. Every time a new detec
> to
> > r
> > > is about to be released there are ALWAYS peopl
> e
> > wh
> > > o live just to run it down. Every detector I
> ha
> > ve
> > > watched in the last 10 years has gotten trashe
> d
> > be
> > > fore anyone even has it in their hands. The b
> ig
> > ge
> > > r the company that makes it, the more haters t
> ha
> > t
> > > jump onto the dogpile.
> >
> > Sure, I have been watching.
> > Ole Beyonder had so many conspiracy theories goi
> ng
> > on with EQx.
> > Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
> >
> > Goodmore was another one who frowned on EQX when
> r
> > eleased.
> > Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
>
> AND here we go! I liked it so much I bought two ac
> tually. Just because I was critical about the rele
> ase date, doesn't mean I hate and won't buy it.
>
> Isn't it the right of the consumer to ask question
> s? Since when is being critical considered hate o
> r is this personal bias? Money is tight and it pay
> s huge to look for every available option. There w
> as a priced discussed and that is what us consumer
> s were reacting to. It was only later that, that p
> rice, was found out to be incorrect.
>
> As for my SO many conspiracy theories, perhaps you
> are a bit too sheltered to think that a conspiracy
> can't happen...just like that college admission sc
> am that's in the news. That was a conspiracy on a
> grand scale with fake websites and many different
> facets. You are naive to think it can't happen.
>
> I may be critical about a company, but that doesn'
> t mean I hate it. Allow me the ability to exercise
> my free speech(which is permitted here) and provok
> e some critical context to a subject rather than j
> ust drink the kool aid.


Me naive.
NOT!!!
Better go read history thread here where I posted in about 2016 ———.
I nailed it big time.
Make America Great is your hint if you need one.

Some may buy this fake news bs.
I sure don’t?

Btw free speech is not an absolute right in USA.
And the fake news media will soon find out too.

There is a BIG difference in asking intelligent questions vs humdrumming BS theories ( ones with seeming always having negative connotations) .

Beyonder you can go look on this forum where I have gave my opinions on future whatever detector wise.
Am I a mind reader? No
But I do try and use common sense and look at the industry overall plus weighing my own perspectives and those of others ( the majority) and make what I call educated guesses at what is to come in the future.
And I share my reasoning here lots of times too,
For why I think what I do.

You see Beyonder you seem to think (based on your conspiracies) that the detector manufacturers are always trying to trick us.
What you don’t realize is Minelab couldn’t give away all detailed info on tech in Eqx for example. You see this as trickery. I don’t. Seems the
“ trickery detector ” works don’t it !!

We are users.
Not engineers.
I couldn’t give a rats azz about the inner workings.
As long as a detector works well.
Besides I would only be guessing if I did try.
Those electrons are invisible !!!



Edited 11 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 02:46PM by tnsharpshooter.

Abenson Wrote:
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> Tom-at the Great Salt Lake I can hit a nickle at 1
> 8 inches with a 15" coil on the GPX running normal
> timings...... Most people run Salt timing or cance
> l in this area That's pushing 20 inches and I thi
> nk doable with a GPX on a normal salt beach. Manta
> will be waterproof though, that's a plus.....I've
> dug some insanely deep rings before where I'm down
> well below shovel length (shovel blade is 12") and
> the target is still in the hole....... I had a guy
> watch me just this last Fall, garden shovel was wa
> y below the surface and I was still getting a sign
> al in the hole. He said no way that's anything goo
> d, pulled a 22k 6 gram ring out from I estimate 16
> -18 inches no way to know for sure though.

Spent awhile going thru my older documentation on the GP3000 and GPX4000 both published field tests and other papers relating to GPX 45000, 5000 tests etc. (predominantly land tests done in Ireland & Africa in orange soil areas)

Wow! I have forgotten so much!

In the Field Test of the GPX4000, a tiny crucifix of an unknown metal came up from 7" with a mellow signal.
Another mellow signal produced a single thin strand of chain with a nice intaglio with a red stone set in was found a few inches below the surface.
Large coins were found from between 14" inches to 18" inches.
(no mention of smaller coins except the small copper Euro 5c coin that became a bit of a nuisance as they came up regularly but no depth/s recorded)

The GP3000 published August 2004
A soft but repeatable signal was a small safety pin measuring 28mms x 6mms from 12.5"
Pre Euro copper coins came up from 18" (didn't record whether these were 1p and 2p copper coins or older pre-decimal: however I would nearly bet they were the pre Euro 1and 2p's)
A pre Euro £1 coin (Irish coin) measuring 31mms in diameter came up from 21"
A 5o gram lead fishing weight came up from two feet with "an enormous signal"
A short 'ornamental' silver chain was 'a peculiar signal' that I couldn't properly say where it began and ended, when it was eventually uncovered it was lying at a W - E tangent, not bunched up but in a straight line.

That proves the scope for great depths with the GPX' is there!

NB With the GPX 4500 and 5000, "Salt" is quite effective on the beach but when the sand conditions are really bad (if false signals are heard) I will use Cancel.
However, when in Cancel it's best to have the Soil switch on Normal (N) as it is almost always smoother in operation.
One Tip is: M mode: If you can achieve a perfectly good stable Threshold with M and Sensitive, use it. It's also beneficial to tune the detector with the coil laying flat on the wet sand.

So, I have reassessed my opinion and am now saying, with careful use a GPX with a standard 11" DD coil could reach to 17" on a nickel.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 02:54PM by Des D.

I'll post some pics and such on Monday the 18th when I get back home...they just greenlighted me to show some. Took a few while I had it for a week in October.

Found a thin ladies 10K gold ring first day out with the prototype....and I had never really used a PI at that point.

I tested something else...not the unit. So they didn't even send instructions for the unit...I just crashed coursed myself.

So if a PI newb can hit gold the first day out...I'm pretty confident a veteran PI user will have a good time with it.

No shill here. I always admitted when I was sponsored by FTP...and admit I am no longer. That is just me saying that...take it however ya like.

That being said...if people are wanting a discriminating PI...this seems to do it. Made the nails go burp and the good stuff go boing. No doubt about it.

Buried a simlar 10K ring at 12 inches in my backyard when I got home...6-bar gold prospecting type dirt (T2 scale pegged)...easy hit. Buried a nail same depth...easy grunt.

I would expect an inland gold or relic version for sure. Seems to be a no brainer.

My YouTube - [www.youtube.com]
Website - [www.thehuntergt.com]



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/21/2019 09:42PM by TheHunterGT.

There is a utube video where the TDI Pro hits an 18" nickel----the guy was comparing it to the then new ATX.

PS.---I have 4 ML's---2 PI's so not biased against the GPX.

I agree Des....I was digging 2 ounce sinkers yesterday with the MDT....crazy deep so can’t imagin what those might do. But man what’s their price tag?

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----
> > > silverfiend Wrote:
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > > -----
> > > > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > > --
> > > > -----
> > > >
> > > > > Lot of rants in this thread, premature if
> yo
> > u
> > > as
> > > > k
> > > > > me.
> > > > > Folks have been bitching about First Texas
> r
> > el
> > > ea
> > > > si
> > > > > ng something new.
> > > > > Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs late
> r.
> > > > >
> > > > > So folks seems are getting their wish yet
> th
> > ey
> > > a
> > > > re
> > > > > still bitching.
> > > >
> > > > Haven't you learned yet? There is a conting
> en
> > t
> > > fo
> > > > r that is ALL they do. Every time a new det
> ec
> > to
> > > r
> > > > is about to be released there are ALWAYS peo
> pl
> > e
> > > wh
> > > > o live just to run it down. Every detector
> I
> > ha
> > > ve
> > > > watched in the last 10 years has gotten tras
> he
> > d
> > > be
> > > > fore anyone even has it in their hands. The
> b
> > ig
> > > ge
> > > > r the company that makes it, the more haters
> t
> > ha
> > > t
> > > > jump onto the dogpile.
> > >
> > > Sure, I have been watching.
> > > Ole Beyonder had so many conspiracy theories g
> oi
> > ng
> > > on with EQx.
> > > Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
> > >
> > > Goodmore was another one who frowned on EQX wh
> en
> > r
> > > eleased.
> > > Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
> >
> > AND here we go! I liked it so much I bought two
> ac
> > tually. Just because I was critical about the re
> le
> > ase date, doesn't mean I hate and won't buy it.
> >
> > Isn't it the right of the consumer to ask questi
> on
> > s? Since when is being critical considered hate
> o
> > r is this personal bias? Money is tight and it p
> ay
> > s huge to look for every available option. There
> w
> > as a priced discussed and that is what us consum
> er
> > s were reacting to. It was only later that, that
> p
> > rice, was found out to be incorrect.
> >
> > As for my SO many conspiracy theories, perhaps y
> ou
> > are a bit too sheltered to think that a conspira
> cy
> > can't happen...just like that college admission
> sc
> > am that's in the news. That was a conspiracy on
> a
> > grand scale with fake websites and many differen
> t
> > facets. You are naive to think it can't happen.
> >
> > I may be critical about a company, but that does
> n'
> > t mean I hate it. Allow me the ability to exerci
> se
> > my free speech(which is permitted here) and prov
> ok
> > e some critical context to a subject rather than
> j
> > ust drink the kool aid.
>
>
> Me naive.
> NOT!!!
> Better go read history thread here where I posted
> in about 2016 ———.
> I nailed it big time.
> Make America Great is your hint if you need one.
>
> Some may buy this fake news bs.
> I sure don’t?
>
> Btw free speech is not an absolute right in USA.
> And the fake news media will soon find out too.
>
> There is a BIG difference in asking intelligent qu
> estions vs humdrumming BS theories ( ones with see
> ming always having negative connotations) .
>
> Beyonder you can go look on this forum where I hav
> e gave my opinions on future whatever detector wis
> e.
> Am I a mind reader? No
> But I do try and use common sense and look at the
> industry overall plus weighing my own perspectives
> and those of others ( the majority) and make what
> I call educated guesses at what is to come in the
> future.
> And I share my reasoning here lots of times too,
> For why I think what I do.
>
> You see Beyonder you seem to think (based on your
> conspiracies) that the detector manufacturers are
> always trying to trick us.
> What you don’t realize is Minelab couldn’t give aw
> ay all detailed info on tech in Eqx for example.
> You see this as trickery. I don’t. Seems the
> “ trickery detector ” works don’t it !!
>
> We are users.
> Not engineers.
> I couldn’t give a rats azz about the inner working
> s.
> As long as a detector works well.
> Besides I would only be guessing if I did try.
> Those electrons are invisible !!!

In every situation, there is a positive and a negative. I point out both. Not just the positive.

I don't know what you mean trick. If you mean that they try to do what is best for them first, then the customer second, then some companies do "trick" customers.

You must be confusing me with someone else as I didn't ask anything about tech. I asked about a release date which is not asking to give away their tech secrets. In case you or anyone else wish to re-read what I wrote, you can find it here:

[www.dankowskidetectors.com]

"It's only when we lost everything, that we are free to do anything"

Beyonder,

Where did you get that Keith Southern quote??
Don’t think I have ever saw before used by the man himself.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 04:11PM by tnsharpshooter.

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> silverfiend Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----
> >
> > > Lot of rants in this thread, premature if you
> as
> > k
> > > me.
> > > Folks have been bitching about First Texas rel
> ea
> > si
> > > ng something new.
> > > Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs later.
> > >
> > > So folks seems are getting their wish yet they
> a
> > re
> > > still bitching.
> >
> > Haven't you learned yet? There is a contingent
> fo
> > r that is ALL they do. Every time a new detecto
> r
> > is about to be released there are ALWAYS people
> wh
> > o live just to run it down. Every detector I ha
> ve
> > watched in the last 10 years has gotten trashed
> be
> > fore anyone even has it in their hands. The big
> ge
> > r the company that makes it, the more haters tha
> t
> > jump onto the dogpile.
>
> Sure, I have been watching.
> Ole Beyonder had so many conspiracy theories going on with EQx. Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
>
> Goodmore was another one who frowned on EQX when released. Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL


Pretty funny that people talk themselves out of a detector before even giving it a try, let alone before it's even release.

I guess everyone that makes youtube videos that show how it works are lying, Minelab and Nokta of course are paying them piles of money to make false product videos

My hunt buddy Tom bought an EQ800 in a group buy I orchestrated and by god if it couldn't immediately trump his vintage tried and true Explorer on every test he could perform in two days, he was bound and determined to dump it on ebay while the prices were still inflated so he could make a buck.

Now he wants me to flag signals for him to test on his Exp2 on every hunt we go on, which to be honest, is kind of annoying, because I don't need to be convinced that the EQ works, it's been doing a fine job on just about every hunt I've taken it on, but apparently he's still trying to find the silver bullet end all test that proves or disproves one machine is better then the other. We are planning a road trip pretty soon to some of our old relic and ghost town sites, I think the Equinox is going to spank his Explorer like it's never been spanked before



Edited 3 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 04:40PM by Cal_cobra.

Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > silverfiend Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----
> > > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > > -----
> > >
> > > > Lot of rants in this thread, premature if yo
> u
> > as
> > > k
> > > > me.
> > > > Folks have been bitching about First Texas r
> el
> > ea
> > > si
> > > > ng something new.
> > > > Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs later.
> > > >
> > > > So folks seems are getting their wish yet th
> ey
> > a
> > > re
> > > > still bitching.
> > >
> > > Haven't you learned yet? There is a contingen
> t
> > fo
> > > r that is ALL they do. Every time a new detec
> to
> > r
> > > is about to be released there are ALWAYS peopl
> e
> > wh
> > > o live just to run it down. Every detector I
> ha
> > ve
> > > watched in the last 10 years has gotten trashe
> d
> > be
> > > fore anyone even has it in their hands. The b
> ig
> > ge
> > > r the company that makes it, the more haters t
> ha
> > t
> > > jump onto the dogpile.
> >
> > Sure, I have been watching.
> > Ole Beyonder had so many conspiracy theories goi
> ng on with EQx. Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
> >
> > Goodmore was another one who frowned on EQX when
> released. Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
>
>
> Pretty funny that people talk themselves out of a
> detector before even giving it a try, let alone be
> fore it's even release. Sure I guess everyone tha
> t makes youtube videos that show how it works are
> lying, Minelab and Nokta of course are paying them
> piles of money to make false product videos M
> y hunt buddy Tom bought one in a group I orchestra
> ted and by god if it couldn't immediately trump hi
> s vintage tried and true Explorer on every test he
> could perform in two days, he was bound and determ
> ined to dump it on ebay while the prices were stil
> l inflated so he could make a buck. Now he wants
> me to flag signals for him to test on his Exp2 on
> every hunt we go on, which to be honest, is kind o
> f annoying, because I don't need to be convinced t
> hat the EQ works, it's been doing a fine job on ju
> st about every hunt I've taken it on, but apparent
> ly he's still trying to find the silver bullet end
> all test that proves or disproves one machine is b
> etter then the other. We are planning a road trip
> pretty soon to some of our old relic and ghost tow
> n sites, I think the Equinox is going to spank his
> Explorer like it's never been spanked before


LMAO!!!
Yeah I forgot about Tom.
The EQX seems is in his head. Lol

You’ll fix him up when you pop the next gold coin hunting with him.
Why would he want to sweep that heavy slow turd in those old sites full of iron??
I think EQx yields more user error and still make finds in your sites as you describe.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 03/14/2019 04:08PM by tnsharpshooter.

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Cal_cobra Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > ------------------------------------------------
> --
> > -----
> > > silverfiend Wrote:
> > > ----------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > > -----
> > > > tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> > > > --------------------------------------------
> --
> > --
> > > --
> > > > -----
> > > >
> > > > > Lot of rants in this thread, premature if
> yo
> > u
> > > as
> > > > k
> > > > > me.
> > > > > Folks have been bitching about First Texas
> r
> > el
> > > ea
> > > > si
> > > > > ng something new.
> > > > > Sounds like it gonna happen sooner vs late
> r.
> > > > >
> > > > > So folks seems are getting their wish yet
> th
> > ey
> > > a
> > > > re
> > > > > still bitching.
> > > >
> > > > Haven't you learned yet? There is a conting
> en
> > t
> > > fo
> > > > r that is ALL they do. Every time a new det
> ec
> > to
> > > r
> > > > is about to be released there are ALWAYS peo
> pl
> > e
> > > wh
> > > > o live just to run it down. Every detector
> I
> > ha
> > > ve
> > > > watched in the last 10 years has gotten tras
> he
> > d
> > > be
> > > > fore anyone even has it in their hands. The
> b
> > ig
> > > ge
> > > > r the company that makes it, the more haters
> t
> > ha
> > > t
> > > > jump onto the dogpile.
> > >
> > > Sure, I have been watching.
> > > Ole Beyonder had so many conspiracy theories g
> oi
> > ng on with EQx. Dang if he didn’t go buy one. Lo
> L
> > >
> > > Goodmore was another one who frowned on EQX wh
> en
> > released. Dang if he didn’t go buy one. LoL
> >
> >
> > Pretty funny that people talk themselves out of
> a
> > detector before even giving it a try, let alone
> be
> > fore it's even release. Sure I guess everyone t
> ha
> > t makes youtube videos that show how it works ar
> e
> > lying, Minelab and Nokta of course are paying th
> em
> > piles of money to make false product videos
> M
> > y hunt buddy Tom bought one in a group I orchest
> ra
> > ted and by god if it couldn't immediately trump
> hi
> > s vintage tried and true Explorer on every test
> he
> > could perform in two days, he was bound and dete
> rm
> > ined to dump it on ebay while the prices were st
> il
> > l inflated so he could make a buck. Now he want
> s
> > me to flag signals for him to test on his Exp2 o
> n
> > every hunt we go on, which to be honest, is kind
> o
> > f annoying, because I don't need to be convinced
> t
> > hat the EQ works, it's been doing a fine job on
> ju
> > st about every hunt I've taken it on, but appare
> nt
> > ly he's still trying to find the silver bullet e
> nd
> > all test that proves or disproves one machine is
> b
> > etter then the other. We are planning a road tr
> ip
> > pretty soon to some of our old relic and ghost t
> ow
> > n sites, I think the Equinox is going to spank h
> is
> > Explorer like it's never been spanked before
>
>
> LMAO!!!
> Yeah I forgot about Tom.
> The EQX seems is in his head. Lol
>
> You’ll fix him up when you pop the next gold coin hunting with him.
> Why would he want to sweep that heavy slow turd in those old sites full of iron??
> I think EQx yields more user error and still make finds in your sites as you describe.


We're actually going to the site I dug my gold coin at, we haven't been back since, and I've been salivating to take the Equinox out there. It's a tough site for VLF detectors because of the heavy alkali soil, it's so heavy that I couldn't even ground balance the Impact, so the VLF detectors are seriously handicapped out there and I think the EQ800 is going to open that site up. It would be so sweet to find a second gold coin out there, I'd almost guarantee he'd dump his Exp2 and order an EQ800 (as much of a tightwad as he is, he'd likely get the EQ600 - LOL!).

Regarding sites full of iron, I have to hand it to him, he does well at those sites, hunts in the sea of nail environments and pulls out conductors, but I now know that the EQ will do a better job then the CTX and the Exp. A site we've pounded, even been skunked at many times, it's been pounded by the CTX and Explorer (and a multitude of other detectors) and I dug two seated dimes and a barber dime at ground zero on my first hunt there with the EQ800. If he encounters an iron patch that's too much for his Exp2, he'll pull out his Tesoro Silver Sabre, not a depth demon, but it does fine in heavy iron.

Cannot wait for the show down between his Exp2 and the EQ800



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tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Beyonder,
>
> Where did you get that Keith Southern quote??
> Don’t think I have ever saw before used by the man
> himself.


It's a satire piece. Look at his quote. He never said that.

"It's only when we lost everything, that we are free to do anything"