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Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw

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Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:18PM
It doesn't have a receiving audio module that its existing transmitter can pair with so you can use a variety of different headphones. Now how hard could it be to produce? Right now with all this heat I'd love to be able to use my Deus Backphones on the Kruzer without having to go through complete hell to do so. I have the Garrett Z-Lynk audio modules, but I have to plug the transmitting module into an adapter before they will work on the Kruzer. If I decide to use the battery back-up I'm screwed. Also with all those extra cables running everywhere, changing a search coil is not an easy task. Also with the attached Z-Lynk transmitting module not being waterproof I can't just spray off the Kruzer to clean off the mud without first removing the Z-Lynk transmitter audio module. Other than that I love my Kruzer. lol

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:29PM
Whiner......
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:33PM
Major Flaw.
Don’t think so.

A major flaw is some thing that keeps the detector from performing or being used for its intended purpose.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2018 08:34PM by tnsharpshooter.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:34PM
Welgund Wrote:
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> Whiner...…


I have to have something to do, it's too damn hot to get out and detect.

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:36PM
tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Major Flaw.
> Don’t think so.
>
> A major flaw is some thing that keeps the detector
> from performing or being used for its intended pur
> pose.

I don't like wearing hot headphones in the summer heat, so it doesn't work for me. lol

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:44PM
Misleading Title - Uh Oh (electronic sound)
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:48PM
Tabman,
I don’t have mulit kruzer.
It does have a way to hook wired headphones correct??
Is the connector used to do peculiar or proprietary??

Sounds like you need adapter to be a able to use wired earbuds due to the heat.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:54PM
He just wanting Makro to put out a wireless module that will pair with his kruzer so he can use different headphones. Kind of like the Nox 800 Wm 08 module etc. Dilek can probably address his woes and let him know if it's something they have though about implementing. Makro did a wonderful job with this detector with all the coils and accessories available for it, I have to admit it would be nice to have a module also.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 08:58PM
tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Tabman,
> I don’t have mulit kruzer.
> It does have a way to hook wired headphones correc
> t??
> Is the connector used to do peculiar or proprietar
> y??
>
> Sounds like you need adapter to be a able to use
> wired earbuds due to the heat.


Yeah with the adaptor you can plug in wired headphones, but the Kruzer's audio transmitter then becomes useless. What's the use of having a waterproof detector that has a audio transmitter if you have to plug WIRED headphones into an adapter to get them to work. Makro needs to come out with a audio receiver that works with the Makro transmitter. I'd be a happy camper!

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 09:01PM
Welgund Wrote:
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> He just wanting Makro to put out a wireless module
> that will pair with his kruzer so he can use diffe
> rent headphones. Kind of like the Nox 800 Wm 08 m
> odule etc. Dilek can probably address his woes an
> d let him know if it's something they have though
> about implementing. Makro did a wonderful job wit
> h this detector with all the coils and accessories
> available for it, I have to admit it would be nice
> to have a module also.


Yeah you got it! However I like the design and size of the Garrett Z-Lynk receiving module. It Rocks!

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 09:50PM
Here is some feedback on the Op’s complaint via another forum.

[metaldetectingforum.com]

Additional Info.
Choppa dude a prerelease tester of Multikruzer.

[metaldetectingforum.com]



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2018 09:57PM by tnsharpshooter.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 09:56PM
Lets see, there are the wireless headphones that come with the Multi Kruzer, Then there is an adapter so you can use any wired earbuds or light weight headphones and then there is the Makro wired waterproof headphones. Someone needs to call the waaaambulance.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 10:04PM
Tom Slick Wrote:
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> Lets see, there are the wireless headphones that c
> ome with the Multi Kruzer, Then there is an adapte
> r so you can use any wired earbuds or light weight
> headphones and then there is the Makro wired water
> proof headphones. Someone needs to call the waaaam
> bulance.

I don't want wired headphones on a detector that already has a built in audio transmitter. Having a audio receiver that will pair up with the Kruzer's audio transmitter would be nice. Besides most lightweight headphones don't have the great sound quality that the Deus Backphones have.

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 10:11PM
tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Here is some feedback on the Op’s complaint via a
> nother forum.
>
> [metaldetectingforum.com]
> 3579
>
> Additional Info.
> Choppa dude a prerelease tester of Multikruzer.
>
> [metaldetectingforum.com]
> 6635

The battery pack isn't the issue (it's super nice), it's not having a audio receiver that will pair up with the Kruzer's built-in audio transmitter so I can use some good light weight headphones without having cables and wires running everywhere.

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 10:19PM
[www.amazon.com]

You should I think change your thread title to.....

Maybe a recommendation to Makro (Dilek) for Multikruzer line of detectors.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/19/2018 10:23PM by tnsharpshooter.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 10:29PM
tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> [www.amazon.com]
> itters/b?ie=UTF8&node=9926003011

I want what you're smoking! lol I've already stated that I have Garrett Z-Lynks and I've tried the cheaper ones that you linked and returned them. They're junk compared to Z-Lynks.
Thanks anyway for you trying to help. Makro just needs to manufacture a good audio receiver that will pair up with the Kruzer's built in waterproof audio transmitter.

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 10:44PM
tabman Wrote:
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> tnsharpshooter Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > [www.amazon.com]
> sm
> > itters/b?ie=UTF8&node=9926003011
>
> I want what you're smoking! lol I've already state
> d that I have Garrett Z-Lynks and I've tried the c
> heaper ones that you linked and returned them. The
> y're junk compared to Z-Lynks.
> Thanks anyway for you trying to help. Makro just n
> eeds to manufacture a good audio receiver that wil
> l pair up with the Kruzer's built in waterproof au
> dio transmitter.
>
> tabman


You are welcome.

Try Marlboro they are real good.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 19, 2018 11:54PM
Be brave/ambitious. Crack open your Kruzer headphones. Re-house all the electronics guts in a suitable small plastic case, with a 1/4" ( or 3.5mm) stereo socket for the output. Tidy up the headphones, fill in the holes etc, fit a (mono) cable on it with a 1/4"(or 3.5mm) plug on it.
Now you've still got the original 'phones functional, but can use earbuds/backphones/custom single-ear setups etc.
You may even be able to improve things. A larger capacity battery could be fitted for longer run-time.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 12:23AM
Pimento Wrote:
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> Be brave/ambitious. Crack open your Kruzer headpho
> nes. Re-house all the electronics guts in a suitab
> le small plastic case, with a 1/4" ( or 3.5mm) ste
> reo socket for the output. Tidy up the headphones,
> fill in the holes etc, fit a (mono) cable on it wi
> th a 1/4"(or 3.5mm) plug on it.
> Now you've still got the original 'phones function
> al, but can use earbuds/backphones/custom single-e
> ar setups etc.
> You may even be able to improve things. A larger c
> apacity battery could be fitted for longer run-tim
> e.


LOL I thought of that, BUT my electronic skills are so bad that I'd have better luck jumping over the moon than doing that mod. Hopefully Makro will market a audio receiver soon and hopefully they'll model it after the Z-Lynk. I really like my Kruzer a lot.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 12:28AM
Major flaw? Sorry have to raise the BS flag to the top on that one hot smiley

A major flaw would be a bug or something that hampers the detectors ability to perform as expected. An open source (BT) wireless option is not a flaw, it's a design decision. Aside from the Equinox, what other detector supports open standard BT Aptx LL ?

By your logic any detector with a proprietary wireless headphone solution is majorly flawed.... I doubt White's V3i, Garrets ATM w/ Z-Lynk, Dues XP wireless, etc., users would consider the product to have a major flaw because they cannot use some cheap BT headphones from ebay.

Actually by your logic, any detector that doesn't have wireless headphone capability at all should be a major flaw (which I'd be inclined t agree with on principal).
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 12:39AM
Cal_cobra Wrote:
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> Major flaw? Sorry have to raise the BS flag to th
> e top on that one hot smiley
>
> A major flaw would be a bug or something that hamp
> ers the detectors ability to perform as expected.
> An open source (BT) wireless option is not a flaw,
> it's a design decision. Aside from the Equinox,
> what other detector supports open standard BT Aptx
> LL ?
>
> By your logic any detector with a proprietary wire
> less headphone solution is majorly flawed.... I do
> ubt White's V3i, Garrets ATM w/ Z-Lynk, Dues XP wi
> reless, etc., users would consider the product to
> have a major flaw because they cannot use some che
> ap BT headphones from ebay.
>
> Actually by your logic, any detector that doesn't
> have wireless headphone capability at all should b
> e a major flaw (which I'd be inclined t agree with
> on principal).


You sure are smart to figuring all that out. My point is that the Makro Multi-Kruzer is a GREAT detector but it does have one flaw that needs to be address. Hopefully the right person is listening.

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 12:56AM
You do realize you can't have waterproof (under water) wireless , right? As soon as the control unit goes under water the signal stops.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 01:04AM
well if that's its major flaw then its a winner for sure - thumbs down

[www.earthscan.co.nz]
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 01:26AM
Tom Slick Wrote:
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> You do realize you can't have waterproof (under wa
> ter) wireless , right? As soon as the control unit
> goes under water the signal stops.

Yes. When and if I ever do any water detecting I'll most likely buy a set of wired waterproof headphones. Right now I want to be able to detect on dry land with any headphones that I'd like to use without being wired to the detector. I just attached the battery box and relocated the Z-Lynk from the rod to the handle and it makes it easier for me now to change out the search coils. Not having to attach the Z-Lynk would be better though. I'm sure that Makro will come out with a audio receiver that will pair up with the Kruzer's audio transmitter. They make great detectors because they listen to their customers.

tabman



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 07/20/2018 01:28AM by tabman.
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 02:31AM
I love my MMK also. I think it's only "flaw" is with some of it's users. eye rolling smiley
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 02:35AM
Squeaky wheel gets the oil!-----I mean that in a good way Gerald.----Makro/Nokta listens to their customer base.----Maybe you will do all of us some good by posting this.-------Del
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 09:45AM
D&P-OR Wrote:
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> Squeaky wheel gets the oil!-----I mean that in a g
> ood way Gerald.----Makro/Nokta listens to their cu
> stomer base.----Maybe you will do all of us some g
> ood by posting this.-------Del

Del, you're smarter than the average bear and figured right off what I was up to. Anyone who knows anything about detecting would know how nice it would be to have a audio receiver module for the Kruzer. I sure hope that they model the receiver module after the Garrett Z-Lynk. It's the best I've ever used.

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 10:34AM
rustic charm Wrote:
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> well if that's its major flaw then its a winner fo
> r sure - thumbs down

Yep, it's a winner for sure! After a lot of research and listening to other users, I chose the Multi-Kruzer over the Nox. I knew Minelab saying that the Nox would make all other detectors obsolete was a bunch of advertising hype. I feel sorry for those who sold their CTX 3030 and Deus detectors cheap so they could get a Nox.

tabman
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 01:27PM
Hello all.... I have not been posting lately, as so much is going on on this end but I try my best to read posts guys...

Now - wireless module - already got a few emails about this and I can confirm that it is already in the works guys!

Dilek
Re: Makro Multi-Kruzer Has A Major Flaw
July 20, 2018 02:35PM
Nokta Detectors Wrote:
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> Hello all.... I have not been posting lately, as s
> o much is going on on this end but I try my best t
> o read posts guys...
>
> Now - wireless module - already got a few emails
> about this and I can confirm that it is already in
> the works guys!
>
> Dilek


Thank you Dilek.----We really appreciate you (Makro/Nokta Co.) listening to our needs/concerns.----It is SO refreshing to have a Company that is willing to do so---and better yet (if possible) a Company that will act (follow through) on legitimate needs/concerns.-----------Del