Racer gets a hard target out of beat to death Confederate Cavalry camp

That's damn nice Keith and I don't know ANYTHING about relic hunting. I m finding that a slow recovery in garbage and iron equates to a long day. How fast do you say the a Racer is compared to the IDX? Twice as? More? I know there's no challenge between the EX2 and the IDX,at least how I see it. The more junk I see the more it makes me think about "things"....
Off to do some pokin'...

Kevin

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> What was a little concerning to me though....I
> posted a WTB ad on Findmall for a Racer or CoRe.
> And in just one day after posting it, I had over
> 20 different people respond to the ad wanting to
> sell their detectors. I don't think I've ever had
> so much response to a WTB ad in such a short
> time.
>
> Which worries me to wondering:
>
> 1. Maybe it's just that there is a great volume
> of these detectors out there, and the ratio to
> those keeping them is higher than those trying to
> part from them, although it seems like a lot are
> trying to sell them
> 2. Maybe there is only a small group of people
> that actually like them?
>
> Who knows.

I think it's the red color. They think they're going to get used to it, but then they can't.


No, seriously, there was a lot of talk going around long before the Racer became available that created very high expectations. Many were bought on "speculation" and discarded prematurely before the real strengths of the detector became apparent. Some/many? did not receive the inside scoop on the strengths of the detector as we did from our very knowledgeable members. And yes, I think there were many of the Racers sold and that, too, accounts for a fair number being offered as used. And that's just a few of the possible reasons.

And if it is only a small group of people who actually like them, take a look at some of the ones in that group. I'd say that's the group you want to be in!

Wayne

Pleasant Garden, NC
AT Max, Nokta Impact, MX Sport, Nokta FORS Relic, GPX 4800, Infinium, Racer, Deus, F75SE, Nautilus DMC II (order of acquisition, last to first)

Does an archeologist argue with a plow? A bureaucrat with a bulldozer?

>
> No, seriously, there was a lot of talk going
> around long before the Racer became available that
> created very high expectations. Many were bought
> on "speculation" and discarded prematurely before
> the real strengths of the detector became
> apparent. Some/many? did not receive the inside
> scoop on the strengths of the detector as we did
> from our very knowledgeable members. And yes, I
> think there were many of the Racers sold and that,
> too, accounts for a fair number being offered as
> used. And that's just a few of the possible
> reasons.
>

I had the Racer and the Fors CoRe for comparing ergonomics more than anything. I preferred the Racer. I traded my CoRe package to Frank since I didn't see any reason to keep both and let the CoRe collect dust. Some others may have done the same thing but instead traded the Racer and kept the CoRe. The Racer suits a niche for me in heavy metal with lousy soil, has audio I can grasp, lightweight and it is super simple. Those are great traits for my needs. Others may have different environmental challenges and goals for the targets they are searching. On a different subject I tried the Racer wireless module and it sucks.

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> I asked around when I was trying to find a Racer;
> trying to see if I could get one with just the OOR
> and 5x10 coils and nothing else. What I was told
> by several people was the same exact thing....the
> stock 7x11 isn't really popular and doesn't have
> ANY kind of demand for resale. So in other words,
> they would just be stuck with them if they were to
> swap it out with one of the other coils.
>
> I ended up finding a good deal on a used Racer
> with the stock coil, OOR coil, and I went ahead
> and added the 5x10 to it new. I don't think the
> stock coil will get much use for where I'm headed
> with it once it all gets here.
>
> What was a little concerning to me though....I
> posted a WTB ad on Findmall for a Racer or CoRe.
> And in just one day after posting it, I had over
> 20 different people respond to the ad wanting to
> sell their detectors. I don't think I've ever had
> so much response to a WTB ad in such a short
> time.
>
> Which worries me to wondering:
>
> 1. Maybe it's just that there is a great volume
> of these detectors out there, and the ratio to
> those keeping them is higher than those trying to
> part from them, although it seems like a lot are
> trying to sell them
> 2. Maybe there is only a small group of people
> that actually like them?
>
> Who knows.


Im more inclined to Believe Daniel that the peopel Who have them and are trying to move them are probably looking for soemthing different in a detector...

I want machiens that find the goodies in the sites I hunt..Maybe the Sites they hunt the machines arent finding the goodies..

A decade ago Msot detectorist woudl not fo found a use for the Racer...but evolution has taken place..

Without the likes of the T2's and such we can not appreciate the Racer or even Know how to run it properly..

the T2 gave us a turning point in detecting approach and attitude really....the Racer takes that Idea and adds to it Audibly through the use of Blendy/Bleedy audio thats Intelligent..

If people dont get the Audio there not going to get the Racer..

If they dont like a full site audio report then I can see them for sale...It's there loss though..

Im anxious to see what you find in these house sites Daniel..

A Sonic Revolution has begun in the last couple of years..

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

IDXMonster Wrote:
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> That's damn nice Keith and I don't know ANYTHING
> about relic hunting. I m finding that a slow
> recovery in garbage and iron equates to a long
> day. How fast do you say the a Racer is compared
> to the IDX? Twice as? More? I know there's no
> challenge between the EX2 and the IDX,at least how
> I see it. The more junk I see the more it makes me
> think about "things"....
> Off to do some pokin'...
>
> Kevin

Kevin the Racer is FASTER than the IDX..not as much as the IDX is faster than the Explorer comaprsion wise...but its Faster FOR SURE! and I'll promise you way more TELLING...

The thing on the IDX classic circuit is its very nice about unmasking .. but its usually higher condutor's...lower things are ahrder to egt out fo nails and iron...The Racer will offer another demention and also LIGHT UP stuff the IDX jsut wont or if it does it sounds too much like and Iorn false ont he IDX to be intelligent enough to make you dig it...

Higher Freq's....Higher gains...Tighter DD's ...rejected target report's Via tone...Bleedy/blendy intelligent audio..fast recovery..gets things done in iron...

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> Nice buckle!!!
>
> So which detector is the apex in iron?????


Its According on the targets Im after...

I still find the DEUS to have an edge on smaller cuff size non ferrous 'ROUND' targets in iron over any other unit...The DEUS/GMP jumps on cuff button size's very very well...

The Racer/ CoRe jumps on weird shapes of brass and lead in iron as small or smaller than cuff sizes...Not to say it wont see the ROUND target's but for some reason I find lots of full GAMUT size/shape/conductivity non ferrous targets in iron ...from lead sliver's to thing's like the full size large brass buckle's...

At this point in my detecting career and Knowing what I know and how to put thing's to use when and where..the RACER basically serves my every need..

For me its a true WORKHORSE unit..

I grab it more and more everyday...

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

And that is what this post was about...
[www.dankowskidetectors.com]

ncwayne Wrote:
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> Daniel Tn Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > What was a little concerning to me though....I
> > posted a WTB ad on Findmall for a Racer or CoRe.
>
> > And in just one day after posting it, I had
> over
> > 20 different people respond to the ad wanting
> to
> > sell their detectors. I don't think I've ever
> had
> > so much response to a WTB ad in such a short
> > time.
> >
> > Which worries me to wondering:
> >
> > 1. Maybe it's just that there is a great
> volume
> > of these detectors out there, and the ratio to
> > those keeping them is higher than those trying
> to
> > part from them, although it seems like a lot
> are
> > trying to sell them
> > 2. Maybe there is only a small group of people
> > that actually like them?
> >
> > Who knows.
>
> I think it's the red color. They think they're
> going to get used to it, but then they can't.
>
>
> No, seriously, there was a lot of talk going
> around long before the Racer became available that
> created very high expectations. Many were bought
> on "speculation" and discarded prematurely before
> the real strengths of the detector became
> apparent. Some/many? did not receive the inside
> scoop on the strengths of the detector as we did
> from our very knowledgeable members. And yes, I
> think there were many of the Racers sold and that,
> too, accounts for a fair number being offered as
> used. And that's just a few of the possible
> reasons.
>
> And if it is only a small group of people who
> actually like them, take a look at some of the
> ones in that group. I'd say that's the group you
> want to be in!
>
> Wayne

Thanks Keith good to know more about what's out there.

Kevin

IDXMonster Wrote:
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> Thanks Keith good to know more about what's out
> there.
>
> Kevin


Most welcome Sir!

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

I haven't actually had the chance to use my Racer very much due to the weeds and such. But between my experiences with the Core last digging season and what little I did use my Racer---very impressive. And I've never used either detector in a virgin site either.

I won't be getting rid of mine any time soon.

I also expect to see some great finds made this fall and winter with the Racer---even in "supposed" hunted out sites.

Do have the 5x10 coil--have played around with it. Like the design/weight and depth. A keeper for sure.

Good luck fellow Racer owners/users. Should be fun this digging season.

I need to get out so I can catch up with ole Lawrenzo, you too Keith.

keith i have been teetering in the brink of getting a Racer but I think you have sold me on this machine.

Curantly own a Mirage P.I made by sven , and a silver Umax with ground balance mode, and a Tesoro Tejon

Gunnar if you like the DTVG,,and T2 youll like this unit...DTVG type audio With T2 Attributes...yet easier to set up and get success..

Seriously ...just turn it on ,ground grab and go.. and get results..No exact setting's required for world class unmasking..

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla

Gunnar go ahead and get one and learn the audio. Once that's done, turn it up and it sounds like something out of a 75 yr old cosmos movie. It splats and purrs and tics and growls and all sorts of sounds. But when it hits good metal it's like getting hit by a freight train, that obvious. Superb machines all around imo. Unreal in heavy trash where other machines can't hardly find anything and superb in the open clean ground too.

N/T

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 09/04/2015 03:03AM by Keith Southern.

not if you change the frequency
Have found coins the same size if not a tad bigger than the US silver dollar in iron patches like you have. I sure as heck am not implying that you dont know what you are doing, that is the furthest from my mind. I know you have very profound knowledge regarding this subject. I am just surprise. I am now actually wondering what I have walked over

Keith Southern Wrote:
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> goldmanjace Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I have found smaller pieces (coins and buttons
> for
> > example) mixed in with more iron like that with
> my
> > deus.
>
>
> Weird how the DEUS can jump on a smaller items in
> iron yet struggle with larger higher condcutor
> items in iron..
>
> DEUS will find the smallest of buttons.. yet walk
> over a Silver dollar...
>
> Keith

Glad you like your DEUS Goldman...

There great unit's

Keith

“I don't care that they stole my idea . . I care that they don't have any of their own”
-Nikola Tesla