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OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley

Posted by Cal_cobra 
OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 03:31AM
I haven't been getting to hunt as much as I'd like to this year as my wife and I had a baby girl in May. She's a doll, but those of you with kids know the drill tongue sticking out smiley

Anyhow, my wife asked me what I wanted for my birthday this month and I told her I wanted to go detecting for a few days at one of our old haunts, and to my amazement she said OK eye popping smiley

I was planning to go with TomCA, but he wasn't able to make it and I ended up going solo. This is a remote Spanish outpost site that we researched years ago. Tom's less crazy about it then I am, but I like the history around it and it's continued to produce interesting finds. It's a relaxing, beautiful place to detect, that just invokes early western frontier history, and almost every relic or coin you dig is dripping with age and history (for our neck of the woods that is).

Anyhow, I had planned to use my Multi Kruzer with a new 7" concentric coil to work in the iron, but due to a headphone issue, I had to switch over to my Equinox 800. Boy am I glad I did, I made one of my best finds to date! A seated coin cache that I will never forget digging, and not just a seated coin cache, but a coin cache/spill with a hole mystery Was it Indian trade jewelry?

Here's they are in all their glory:



I dug several nice relics, and was able to capture the coin cache dug live:

[youtu.be]


HH,
Cal
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 03:41AM
Sweeet! Looks like a couple may have been buttons.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 03:51AM
That's just out of this world fantastic! You going to have to tell us more about your finds and settings.

beephead
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 03:52AM
That is a great find !!!
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:01AM
The Cobra has struck!!

Nice indeed.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:03AM
Phenomenal!

Dean
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:04AM
Congrats an a great outing Brian and video story. Enjoyed every minute.

El
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:12AM
I thought You was too old to still make Baby's. Ha!
Nice finds.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:15AM
Brian, Great find! I think the nails you found probably punched the holes in the dimes.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:24AM
Yeah, I'd say that's EPIC, indeed, Brian!!!!

MAJOR CONGRATS!!! What a rush that must have been!

I posted this in your thread on another forum, but will post it here for those interested. Seeing those dimes of yours, brought this to mind (from a small Native American museum in Davis, Oklahoma)…





I'm not suggesting the exact same use of those dimes of yours, but maybe something similar? The "button" idea that Shakydigger mentioned is certainly possible, but maybe something more decorative, as in my pictures?

CONGRATULATIONS!!!

Steve
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:26AM
Wow...That is just awesome...Congrats on the killer seated spill. Super cool man...
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:52AM
Thanks everyone, it was a rush digging those seateds and wondering what they were used for and what fiery death they lived to end up there.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:54AM
steveg Wrote:
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> Yeah, I'd say that's EPIC, indeed, Brian!!!!
>
> MAJOR CONGRATS!!! What a rush that must have been
> !
>
> I posted this in your thread on another forum, but
> will post it here for those interested. Seeing th
> ose dimes of yours, brought this to mind (from a s
> mall Native American museum in Davis, Oklahoma)…
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm not suggesting the exact same use of those dim
> es of yours, but maybe something similar? The "bu
> tton" idea that Shakydigger mentioned is certainly
> possible, but maybe something more decorative, as
> in my pictures?
>
> CONGRATULATIONS!!!
>
> Steve

Steve that's just incredible thumbs down Yes I think they were used as Indian decorative items. Do you mind if I post your photos on another threat (on Tnet smiling smiley ?
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 05:05AM
Shakydigger Wrote:
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> Sweeet! Looks like a couple may have been buttons.

Thanks! I think they were used as some kind of Indian decorative thing, I think Steve hit the nail on the head.

tabman Wrote:
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> That's just out of this world fantastic! You going
> to have to tell us more about your finds and setti
> ngs.
>
> beephead

Thanks tabman. I've pretty much settled on Field2, multi, 50 tone and stock everything else and it's been doing great at my relic sites. In heavy iron, I think the Kruzer is far better, but then again I have yet to mount the 6" coil on the Equinox or play around with iron bias or the speed settings.

calabash digger Wrote:
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> That is a great find !!!

Thank you CD!!

tnsharpshooter Wrote:
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> The Cobra has struck!!
>
> Nice indeed.

Thanks TNSS, that strike was a rush!

bado1 Wrote:
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> Phenomenal!
>
> Dean

Thanks Dean!

Elbert Wrote:
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> Congrats an a great outing Brian and video story.
> Enjoyed every minute.
>
> El

Thanks El, glad you were able to watch the video.

Harold,ILL. Wrote:
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> I thought You was too old to still make Baby's. Ha
> !
> Nice finds.

Super swimmers here Ole Harold smiling smiley Thanks!

Tom Slick Wrote:
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> Brian, Great find! I think the nails you found pro
> bably punched the holes in the dimes.

It's possible, I dug plenty of square nails around there.

OutlawDetectors Wrote:
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> Wow...That is just awesome...Congrats on the kille
> r seated spill. Super cool man...

Thanks, it was a total rush digging those.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 05:20AM
To cool for school.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 05:48AM
Killer!!!
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 06:12AM
A hunt to remember for sure!
The video was fun to watch.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 07:00AM
Brian,

Of course not! Thanks for asking about posting elsewhere -- but you are more than welcome to. Have at it!

Steve



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2018 07:04AM by steveg.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 07:22AM
Holy smokes brother!!!!!!!!

Noah
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 10:42AM
Total opposite of finding a coin spill of irritating clad. You probably had to stop and take a deep breath to calm yourself while digging those babies.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 01:40PM
Those were most likely owned by a Chinese miner or railway worker. They punched holes in the center of the coins instead of the top.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 02:22PM
WOW. That's the kind of find we all dream about. Congrats.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 03:09PM
The word epic gets used way too much nowadays, but I'd say it applies here. Congrats, Brian!

Judging by the dates and the fact that they are all seated liberty dimes, it's reasonable to assume this was an 1880's spill. It wasn't uncommon back then for pants not to have pockets so holes were punched in coins for the purpose of attaching to clothing. My semi-educated guess is that maybe they were sewn to a pair of trousers and the thread or whatever was attaching them broke.

It must have been a thrill for you to find them 100+ years later. And thanks for posting a picture and not just a video link.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 03:38PM
That rewrites the definition of “jaw dropper”! I wouldn’t know what to do. Display items if I ever saw some! Just a stunning find...
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:03PM
Outstanding! You should change your user name to Klng Cal Cobra
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 04:04PM
texkinzee Wrote:
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> To cool for school.

Thanks Tex!

Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> Killer!!!

Thanks Daniel!

Cabin Fever Wrote:
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> A hunt to remember for sure!
> The video was fun to watch.

Thanks, appreciate it!


steveg Wrote:
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> Brian,
>
> Of course not! Thanks for asking about posting el
> sewhere -- but you are more than welcome to. Have
> at it!
>
> Steve

Thanks again for posting those photos, that's pretty amazing and I think spot on!

TabZilla Wrote:
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> Holy smokes brother!!!!!!!!
>
> Noah

Thanks Noah, it was a rush!

ozzie Wrote:
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> Total opposite of finding a coin spill of irritati
> ng clad. You probably had to stop and take a deep
> breath to calm yourself while digging those babies
> .

LOL you got that right, although I usually manage to find clad at 200 year old sites. I definitely slowed down to take it all in a few times, it's been one of my favorite sites and even though finds are getting thin that was something else.

Beyonder-Pa Wrote:
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> Those were most likely owned by a Chinese miner or
> railway worker. They punched holes in the center o
> f the coins instead of the top.


Anything's possible, but given the contex of the site (you'll see I eyeballed a trade bead in the video), I think Steve is on point with the Indian decorations. We've found Indian trade items there before (trade beads, silver, mission era trade pendents, etc).

mike from Illinois Wrote:
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> WOW. That's the kind of find we all dream about. Congrats.

These are the kind of finds that make all those dud hunts worth it smiling smiley Thanks Mike!

marcomo Wrote:
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> The word epic gets used way too much nowadays, but
> I'd say it applies here. Congrats, Brian!
>
> Judging by the dates and the fact that they are al
> l seated liberty dimes, it's reasonable to assume
> this was an 1880's spill. It wasn't uncommon back
> then for pants not to have pockets so holes were p
> unched in coins for the purpose of attaching to cl
> othing. My semi-educated guess is that maybe they
> were sewn to a pair of trousers and the thread or
> whatever was attaching them broke.
>
> It must have been a thrill for you to find them 10
> 0+ years later. And thanks for posting a picture
> and not just a video link.


Thanks Marcomo. I agree, 1880's as 1882 is the last date. Here's a list of the dates, pretty wide range so they must've been whatever was in circulation at the time they were made into whatever their indended purpose was:

Seated half-dimes:

1857
1858 O
1872

Seated dimes:

1842
1843
1853
1869
1872
1875 CC
1876
1877
1882

IDXMonster Wrote:
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> That rewrites the definition of “jaw dropper”! I w
> ouldn’t know what to do. Display items if I ever s
> aw some! Just a stunning find...

Thanks IDXM! I'm building up a beautiful display from all the history we've dug in this area over the years.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 05:30PM
Hey there Cal-Cobra Brian : Not so fast. You can't count those as "multiple seateds in a single day". Since they were all holed, hence of the same origin, we shall only count those as a single find. Never mind that some of them were a few feet apart: It only counts as a single find. So neener neener !!

Haha, seriously now: That was a rush getting on-the-spot text narration from you, during the episode a few days ago. Thanx !

Another detector that's been over that ground, in addition to those you mentioned, is the Tesoro Silver Sabre. My coins from the site (with Explorer II), as I recall, is a seated quarter, seated dime, IH, and a quarter reale. Yet for some reason, as you mentioned, it's not been high on my "like" list of sites. Lots of soldered can junk. Ugghhh. But for you, it's never ceased to come up with surprises. You've meshed with this site, for sure.

Ordinarily, a find dated to the early 1880s in CA, would be well-past "Indian" stuff explanations. But as you've alluded to in your video (so I guess it's ok to repeat): This was one of those zones in CA where .... how shall we call it ... it was like reservations. Or ... areas where they gathered just prior to reservations. Such zones exist all over CA, so that wouldn't be revealing (as for location hints) to explain . And yes: Some of their adornments habits (beads, etc...) were a continuation of their pre-contact era habits.

I loved how there was the on-the-spot in-situ narration revelation evolving at 4:00 -ish . Where .... the ID of the first one comes-to-light . right as the viewer watches/listens. That was as good as an in-situ live dig smiling smiley

And I liked how you interspersed the entire video with normal obligatory finds . Eg.: shotgun butts, iron that fooled you, trinkets, etc... So that it's not like a bass-fishing channel where "every cast is a lunker". And I liked how you let the viewer listen to the sounds on a few (even some before you broke open the hole). That just adds to the feeling of actually being there, assessing each potential, etc... Good job ! And I liked it at 22:00 where you say "Come to papa". That's exactly the feeling a person gets, when he's on a roll like that, gets a similar signal, etc....

As far as the ability of the Nox 800 to have allowed this from our worked out site: I am looking forward to some flagged signal tests in the future. I have no doubt it will spank my Explorer II in iron-ridden sites. But would be interesting to see how it compares to the Silver Sabre. Although the Sabre is wimpy on depth, it's good at iron-averaging-see-through. Looking forward to some hunts where we can trade off flagged signals. Even against your own arsenal (although I know that would become tedious and time-consuming). Like ... to see how it compares to the Racer and Kruzer in ghost-townsy conditions such as those.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/12/2018 05:42PM by Tom_in_CA.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 05:42PM
Wow!!! Awesome!!!! WTG!!!
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 07:34PM
Great video ,Brian! Congratulations on an amazing hunt.
Re: OK, here it is!! Epic Seated Dime Cache Dug eye popping smiley
December 12, 2018 07:54PM
Most excellent....
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