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Summer is here, beaches are chock full.
Every evening they receive a decent vacuum cleaning by the local cash collectors.
How about some thoughts on all those little trinkets that ID as foil and all its permutations.
Is there some method to the madness of digging foil after the cash collectors, beach cleaning machine, etc... have passed.
Digging at night between the beach chair/umbrella c
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What a read,... my brain is still trying to take some of it in,.... LOL
You have measured to a certain extent what our gutt feeling is, when we switched over from an e-trac to a ctx.
The designers probably have similar test beds for evaluating new "ideas".
TOP NOTCH !
I hung on to my e-trac for quite a while untill the CTX became comfortable.
I frequently took the E-trac to the
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BeeMan458 Wrote:
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> Thanks for the comment Keith.
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> The T2 or 705, which ever is chosen, will be for
> the wife and a chatty machine will discourage her
> more than encourage. A light, high quality, full
> featured machine with auto ground balancing that's
> not "noisy," would make her VERY happ
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Johnnyanglo Wrote:
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> The lessons learned here are:
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> 3. If after all the smoke clears you discover an
> opossum was the hole-digging culprit - how
> satirical is that. Emotional rants and
> curse-filled outbursts make one appear childish
> and undisciplined. It doesn't impress most people
> nor does
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Sometimes it takes a newbie to actually drive a point home!!
Don't care for the holes, don't care for the foul language being used, this is supposed to be fun !!
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There is true genious to this forum, don't know the man personally.
But I'd haphazzard a guess, genious is a word which relates to him as well.
In the unstructured clutter of posts touching on various brands, various tech, various forms of hunting which this forum consists of.
He makes us think,... nothing more effective than people who think, build experience, rethink, find a new
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Couldn't agree more with what Keith said.
Even the latest update of Deus V3 hasn't turned it into a multifunctional detector, it's born and bred as a relic hunter.
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CTX with the 6" coil in non-ferrous trash is easier than the Deus with the 9".
Simply because it has a smaller footprint and reads fewer targets under the coil at the same time.
I don't set up any of my detectors for depth when hunting trash, just enough sens to bring those older era coins up.
Amazing what the CTX can do only running at 50% of its range.
Even the Deus at 40%
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I would have said the CTX 6" was a tad more convenient in Iron than the Deus V2. But that is my personal ear/opinion.
Expecting to see the new Deus V3 version to again level the playing field.
Just as long as the Silencer is kept switched off, else it just goes "dead" in and around iron. Too much one way hits.
High end machines, no doubt about that.
About fortitude,... yo
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Hmmm,... what works for me??
It's a very versatile machine you can actually set it up to your preference.
If you find the nulling to be annoying, most likely your threshold setting is too loud.
Your ears and brain going from threshold to null and recovering, can become quite tiresome.
Set it up like a prospecting unit.
Give it a decent audible threshold, change the pitch till the to
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That's what I love about my Excal II at the beach, CTX is also very nice in that department.
Very easy to tell if it's a bottlecap, switch to pinpoint and has a telling longer than coin or jewelry signal.
Haven't got as much hours on the CZ, but in enhanced mode a quicker than normal sweep often only produces the iron tone.
Dead easy!!
As the saltwater loves iron, well you
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On the Deus the silencer setting maxed out shuts up the high tone, but it also shuts up the Deus in areas with any iron about.
So that really isn't an option.
You can feel up on a crowncap with the edge of the coil, but it becomes real tiresome, real quick.
Notching out a few numbers breaks up the high tone,... it's like cough medecin,... doesn't cure the problem.
Being designe
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Managed to sprain an ankle, so taking it easy at the moment.
I've got this crowncap infested venue, so it got me thinking.
DD coils: Deus, X-terra. They just love steel crowncaps, high tone-low tone.
Concentric coils: CZ, X-terra. Do a nice job of averaging everything under the coil and report a mid tone.
BBS and FBS are something different, but except the 6" CTX coil, well coil
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@Keith
Yep, you've got it.
The small non ferrous targets that usually end up at the 12 ferrous line, get dragged down by the overwhelming ferrous under the coil.
So they end up on the lower left side.
Somewhere you can adjust analysis coin-ferrous if I'm correct, this should pull those signals back up to the 12 ferous line.
Anyway I just use a small amount of disc like a 4x4
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Just run a little iron disc and manual sensitivity.
It will break up the Iron tone and bring out the non-ferrous. I haven't noticed a small amount of disc hurting speed or depth.
You'll also see the size of your finds become smaller/deeper.
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With a wide open screen the machine is equally accepting the nail and the coin.
Even if our brain tells us to listen to the high tone.
Now add a small square of discrimination to the nominal ID for the nail and see what happens.
Then you are asking the machine to like coin more.
It will need a slightly slower sweep for the machine to be able to analyse the situation, from my experience anyw
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Kevin, don't want to butt in.
Here's my 2 € cents about the CTX versus Deus in a coin hunting shootout.
Either units in an experienced hand/ear will find about just as much coins at the end of the day.
Here the catch, they will find different coins behind each other.
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Just wait till you get that 6" coil, it is very nice in Iron and weird ground.
Dropping the ferrous tone break in combined finds coins other machines have a real problem with.
My CZ-3D is an awesome steel core coin machine,... left to right high tone, right to left low tone.
The CTX will provide a high tone on the coins when you drop the ferrous tone break a few notches.
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Something in the region of 250 €
Cable and shipping included.
Fairly basic model when you look at the other options from the 3m communications website.
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No added delay, I even used them with the Deus and it's as sharp as ever.
Had to special order the phones from one of those safety gear companies, short comm cable was a 2 week wait.
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Smooth audio is very nice when surface coin shooting in a fairly trash free environement.
It will deliver that sweet coin sound and odd sounds on trash.
Deep isolated targets I prefer pitch hold, often treshold pitch will change indicating you ran over something.
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A headphone system designed to enable communication and provide hearing protection "high attenuation".
At the same time giving the operator the ability to hear what is going around them.
Starting out with the wireless headphone control boxes from the Deus and the CTX.
An adapter to go from large 6.35 mm stereo socket to 3.5 mm mono socket, non specific, just bought an ada
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Great machine, ... spoils you on build quality the instant you put your paws around one.
I really enjoy my time out with it. Especially the fact that it's an all-weather detector, no excuses anymore!
Minelab sure builds some Cadillacs for us to enjoy,... Keith is going to have a field day !!
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Yep, ... sure are!
You won't be dissapointed with the amazing Deus Iron handling skills.
Those new headphones really help you work the tonal differences better,... and with a major Deus following in the US coinshooting game.
Well I wouldn't be amazed if an update didn't adress a few of those key features.
Hey they'll probably fling in that gold prospecting program, over
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For my fields and finds at the moment I'm simulating the F75 with the Deus. Running it at 12 kHz that is.
Picking through a few fields where during WWI German soldiers had their R&R.
It's not a depth monster, especially in the just planted corn fields with fluffy topsoil and dense clay underneath.
But it has a habit of picking up the smallest relics, the ones your continually c
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