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They are either priced too high, they have extra inventory, they are discontinuing them, or new models are coming out. Who knows. I would love to know what detector sales really are. Its tough to pay retail for a detector, especially a high end one like the CTX, when you know you can get a barely used one for half the price. I think the $1000+ price point cuts a lot of people out of the market. I
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Kinda tough to protect a site where I dig...its all public beaches. I have a huge advantage over tourists but locals can watch the beach erosion, know the times to go, etc too. But the cool thing about the beach is that its always changing and fresh drops happen daily.
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Interesting. So are you saying that in mineralized soil PP is deeper than Disc? The beaches I detect have such low mineralization that I haven't been able to test in another environment so my real world tests are the same as my air test. Now I am curious.
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This forum along with all of the others out there are pretty good compared to other hobbies/sports. This forum in particular is the one I have learned the most from. Lots of analysis and testing...something I love doing myself.
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Totally makes me want to learn to scuba...just not sure how that would be where I live. I think all of the water is dirty until you get pretty far out in the ocean
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dewcon4414 Wrote:
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> This chart appears to be saying the Xcal will get
> a quarter at 17" in AM. We have some of the best
> sand in the US and id challenge anyone to hit a
> quarter at 17" that can PP properly. The Xcal
> does better in AM on a quarter....... but it has a
> real hard time on deep quarters
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If he could figure out how to discriminate with a PI it would be a game changer...at the very least I wish he would start making his machines again or pass the torch on so his work keeps going.
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I would add an option to manual ground balance. The auto sensitivity is not very good so I dont see why we accept that their auto ground balance is any better. Let me do it so that I can run the machine hot.
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I would like to see them make 2 machines:
1. An Excal that has:
- upgraded internal components
- straight shaft with weight on back above/behind elbow
- Lighter - up to 10ft waterproof
- Coil/Headphone change connector
- Is not more expensive than current one
- Significant powersource
- PP/Disc button on handle
2. A PI machine that has:
- light - 10ft waterproof
- Pulse delay
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I vary my swing a lot based on conditions, especially when I am in the ocean. I do find that a lighter detector would go a long way to getting me swing time though. Fisher/Minelab need to come out with a machine lighter machine that is only water proof to 10 feet and I would be all on it.
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This depends on the detector, where you live, and where you search. Just as an example...
Right now I am seeing the excalibur sell on ebay for almost $1000 used on ebay. i watched one that was beat to death and needed repair go for $850 a few weeks ago. On that same note, the CTX is dropping like crazy. I have seen them going for $1200-$1300 on the low end with the newer 2016 model going for l
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Pimento Wrote:
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> @gonebeepin: the 'halo effect' has numerous
> threads on this forum, this being one recent one:
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> .php?2,102496
And this one which is linked in that one has a good explanation by nasa tom:
Here are Tom's quotes from that thread which I think sum it up perfectly:
QuoteThe long
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I just did an air and ground test of my machines. I posted this in another forum but since were talking about I thought I would post here too:
Since I just got a new excal I thought I would do a few air and ground tests. The results were a little surprising. To begin my tests I charged the battery to the excal and replaced the batteries to the other units. So all new batteries. Then I tested a
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They could change the excal/cz21 to make them more user friendly out of the box. There are tons of options that would make them better machines. Ergonomics + ability to change coils/headphones would be huge for those machines.
So does anyone have numbers of where people tend to hunt? I guess the lower end machines probably sell the most but I really think the beach is king.
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> > I doubt that,,,probably couple hundred
> > landmachines built for every dedicated salt
> beach
> > machine.
> > Millions of acres of inland land,only a
> fraction
> > of coastal shoreline has Beach goer traffic and
> a
> > lot is state or national park lands,,No hunting
> > period.
This could be correct. I mean there are more la
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Is the pulse delay on the infinium the same as the TDI? I can't find anywhere that confirms if its 10 or 15. I also wasn't sure if it were as deep. The only test I see is that one video that shows the TDI at the beach destroying all of the other PIs and in that video the DF and Infinium were the same, which was a tad deeper than the sand shark. I know its just one video but man that is
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DFinTX Wrote:
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> I wonder if the reason the manufacturers aren't
> producing new saltwater detectors is a question of
> profit vs overhead to produce/them? I know coin
> hunting is big, and relic hunting, but is the
> number of people who would buy dedicated beach
> detector significantly smaller than those look
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Daniel Tn Wrote:
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> Just a question for you guys. Is the Garrett
> Infinium not a good candidate for beach hunting?
> I would think with one of the mono coils on it,
> that it would go decently deep in the wet and
> mineralized sand. BUT I have only been on a
> saltwater beach once in my life with a metal
> det
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Makes absolutely no sense. If whites worked on a waterproof version of the TDI many would be on it. Then figure out how to discrim iron with it and its the #1 beach seller. I own a CZ21, Whites DF, and I am now buying a Excal to mod and I know they could all be improved.
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Ok, I changed that to make it so the machines were the same. I think this is really what it comes down to - how well does the machine handle the conditions. A machine that air tests a dime at 8'' isn't going to pick them up in the ground at 12 inches unless there is a halo effect. But a machine that air tests a dime at 10'' might detect much less depth than that machine t
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OK, I found this in another forum and there are some technical responses. Essentially what they indicate is this:
Air testing will show a machine's depth potential. So if one CZ machine air tests at 8", and one CZ tests at 11", the 11" machine will always test deeper in the same soil/conditions.
QuoteI have no electronic background but once had a detector's radio si
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Pimento Wrote:
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> Quote:"I've read plenty that say will detect
> further in the ground than they air test under the
> right circumstances. // I have heard this too
> but it doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone
> explain this?"
> It's simply because they air-test poorly. I
> understan
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So air tests without EMI would be good and yes doing an air test in a house is a terrible idea just due to metal all over the place in walls and such. A yard can work well if there is no EMI.
I actually have a very high end EMI detector that I had to purchase several years back when we were building a house a few hundred yards from a cell phone tower and I needed to make sure the waves were n
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Steve Herschbach Wrote:
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> Air tests are not useless - but if you think they
> tell you much about performance in bad ground of
> one machine relative to another, good luck with
> that.
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> Machines as a rule do not gain depth in the
> ground. There are however machines that lose far
> less depth when used in
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DFinTX Wrote:
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> I've never used a multifrequency VLF such as some
> of the Minelabs either, but I've read plenty that
> says they will detect further in the ground than
> they air test under the right circumstances.
I have heard this too but it doesn't make sense to me. Can anyone explain this or is it ju
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I am trying to understand the technology of metal detectors and my current interest is depth. I have been reading up on air tests for PI/VLF MDs and how accurate or inaccurate they are. I see where people say they are meaningless because their machine is deeper in ground and then I see quotes around web by experts like Eric Foster saying that an air test should be as deep as any in ground test. S
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jackdaniels Wrote:
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> Okay, granted Makro couldn't see the video for one
> reason or another so why wouldn't they take the
> time to let me know?
Depending on the email settings on both of your ends it may have not even let them know you sent it. They could actually be waiting for you to send the video. Calling, rese
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