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> > > Can you say teabagger web site. Lol
> >
> > You can LOL til your rash clears up but that
> > doesn't change the fact that every article on
> that
> > list is sourced with the links to the original
> > articles from AP, CBS News, etc.
> >
> > By the way only you lefties are into the tea
> > bagging thing. A bunch of perverts and
> degenerates
> >
> >
> > HH
> > John
> >
> > P.S. Did you try your link before you posted
> it?
> > Your link is to nothing, so why did you put it
> up?
> > To prove a non existent point?
>
> Here ya go big
> guy[rationalwiki.org]

I guess you don't care to dispute any of the allegations made from that link I posted? I didn't think you would or could.

Facts are like Kryptonite to the left.

HH
John

P.S. Any one can put an entry into leftist Wikipedia type site like the one you posted even a genius like yourself.

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> > > > [rationalwiki.org] .
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> >
> > >
> > > > Can you say teabagger web site. Lol
> > >
> > > You can LOL til your rash clears up but that
> > > doesn't change the fact that every article on
> > that
> > > list is sourced with the links to the
> original
> > > articles from AP, CBS News, etc.
> > >
> > > By the way only you lefties are into the tea
> > > bagging thing. A bunch of perverts and
> > degenerates
> > >
> > >
> > > HH
> > > John
> > >
> > > P.S. Did you try your link before you posted
> > it?
> > > Your link is to nothing, so why did you put
> it
> > up?
> > > To prove a non existent point?
> >
> > Here ya go big
> > guy[rationalwiki.org]
>
> I guess you don't care to dispute any of the
> allegations made from that link I posted? I
> didn't think you would or could.
>
> Facts are like Kryptonite to the left.
>
> HH
> John
>
> P.S. Any one can put an entry into leftist
> Wikipedia type site like the one you posted even a
> genius like yourself.

I really don't want to waste my time looking up a bunch of individual
allegations that may or may not be true. The one thing that I am sure
is true is that these allegations are one sided and are solely meant
to promote a teabagger agenda.

robertj298 Wrote:
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> > > >
> > > > > Can you say teabagger web site. Lol
> > > >
> > > > You can LOL til your rash clears up but
> that
> > > > doesn't change the fact that every article
> on
> > > that
> > > > list is sourced with the links to the
> > original
> > > > articles from AP, CBS News, etc.
> > > >
> > > > By the way only you lefties are into the
> tea
> > > > bagging thing. A bunch of perverts and
> > > degenerates
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > HH
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > P.S. Did you try your link before you
> posted
> > > it?
> > > > Your link is to nothing, so why did you put
> > it
> > > up?
> > > > To prove a non existent point?
> > >
> > > Here ya go big
> > > guy[rationalwiki.org]
> >
> > I guess you don't care to dispute any of the
> > allegations made from that link I posted? I
> > didn't think you would or could.
> >
> > Facts are like Kryptonite to the left.
> >
> > HH
> > John
> >
> > P.S. Any one can put an entry into leftist
> > Wikipedia type site like the one you posted even
> a
> > genius like yourself.
>
> I really don't want to waste my time looking up a
> bunch of individual
> allegations that may or may not be true. The one
> thing that I am sure
> is true is that these allegations are one sided
> and are solely meant
> to promote a teabagger agenda.

The truth often is one sided. These are not even allegations, they are already proven to be true and have been reported on other news outlets. This website I posted a link for simply had a convenient, consolidated list.

There you go again with the Teabagger remarks. Are you obsessed with the idea of men putting their testicles in each others mouths? You democrats like referring to this sexually deviant act. Must be more of a common and excepted practice in your neck of the woods.

HH
John

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> > > > >
> > > > > > Can you say teabagger web site. Lol
> > > > >
> > > > > You can LOL til your rash clears up but
> > that
> > > > > doesn't change the fact that every
> article
> > on
> > > > that
> > > > > list is sourced with the links to the
> > > original
> > > > > articles from AP, CBS News, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way only you lefties are into the
> > tea
> > > > > bagging thing. A bunch of perverts and
> > > > degenerates
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > HH
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > P.S. Did you try your link before you
> > posted
> > > > it?
> > > > > Your link is to nothing, so why did you
> put
> > > it
> > > > up?
> > > > > To prove a non existent point?
> > > >
> > > > Here ya go big
> > > > guy[rationalwiki.org]
> > >
> > > I guess you don't care to dispute any of the
> > > allegations made from that link I posted? I
> > > didn't think you would or could.
> > >
> > > Facts are like Kryptonite to the left.
> > >
> > > HH
> > > John
> > >
> > > P.S. Any one can put an entry into leftist
> > > Wikipedia type site like the one you posted
> even
> > a
> > > genius like yourself.
> >
> > I really don't want to waste my time looking up
> a
> > bunch of individual
> > allegations that may or may not be true. The
> one
> > thing that I am sure
> > is true is that these allegations are one sided
> > and are solely meant
> > to promote a teabagger agenda.
>
> The truth often is one sided. These are not even
> allegations, they are already proven to be true
> and have been reported on other news outlets. This
> website I posted a link for simply had a
> convenient, consolidated list.
>
> There you go again with the Teabagger remarks. Are
> you obsessed with the idea of men putting their
> testicles in each others mouths? You democrats
> like referring to this sexually deviant act. Must
> be more of a common and excepted practice in your
> neck of the woods.
>
> HH
> John

Like I said a one sided web site that promotes the
teabagger agenda.

As a reference to members of the currently active Tea Party, the word has been used in speech and print by both liberals and conservatives. In this context, the term "teabagger" is a reasonably conceived informal name for an affiliate of the Tea Party, and as a word in the news, it earned a mention for the year 2009." -- "'Teabagger' Finalist For Oxford's 'Word Of The Year"

Tea Party's primary goal is to have a balanced budget and stop the government's runaway reckless spending. It's hard to argue with that, so the left wing socialists resort to name calling.



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>robertj298 Wrote:

> Like I said a one sided web site that promotes
> the
> teabagger agenda.
>
> As a reference to members of the currently active
> Tea Party, the word has been used in speech and
> print by both liberals and conservatives. In this
> context, the term "teabagger" is a reasonably
> conceived informal name for an affiliate of the
> Tea Party, and as a word in the news, it earned a
> mention for the year 2009." -- "'Teabagger'
> Finalist For Oxford's 'Word Of The Year"

Like I said, if you care to dispute any of the articles on that site, please feel free to. The truth has no agenda.

I still remember when the leftists in the media first coined the term "Teabagger" to identify Tea Party members. They were all giggly, snickering to one another. They knew exactly what the term meant. You can play stupid all you like but you're only fooling yourself.

Although, I think you know I'm right but can't bring yourself to admit it. No worries, it's a common failing among people on the left

Even highly educated leftists in academia and high ranking leftist politicians used this deviant and derogatory term when referring to Tea Party members, knowing exactly the connotation.

It's really the first time I can remember national politicians openly insulting a large portion of the electorate in such a disgusting manner.

That is why the left gets no converts, instead having to import them from third world countries into ours or indoctrinate children still in school that don't know any better.

Meanwhile Republicans have taken the House and Senate and soon the White House.

HH
John



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tabman Wrote:
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> Tea Party's primary goal is to have a balanced
> budget and stop the government's runaway reckless
> spending. It's hard to argue with that, so the
> left wing socialists resort to name calling.


But you can sure argue where to slash spending. Anyone for defense? You have one clown (Cruz) that wants to raise the retirement age to 70. While I realize that social security is a separate fund I would rather pay more Into that then buy another bomb.

You have the conservatives that want to get rid of the department of energy. You know the department in charge of our nuclear weapons and is responsible for inspections in other countries. They are also in charge of renewable energy research and development.

You have conservatives in the tea party that want to get rid of the EPA and and departments of education and HUD.

So yes everyone would like to cut spending. YOUR vote very well could determine where.

goodmore Wrote:
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> > Tea Party's primary goal is to have a balanced
> > budget and stop the government's runaway
> reckless
> > spending. It's hard to argue with that, so the
> > left wing socialists resort to name calling.
>
>
> But you can sure argue where to slash spending.
> Anyone for defense? You have one clown (Cruz) that
> wants to raise the retirement age to 70. While I
> realize that social security is a separate fund I
> would rather pay more Into that then buy another
> bomb.
>
> You have the conservatives that want to get rid of
> the department of energy. You know the department
> in charge of our nuclear weapons and is
> responsible for inspections in other countries.
> They are also in charge of renewable energy
> research and development.
>
> You have conservatives in the tea party that want
> to get rid of the EPA and and departments of
> education and HUD.
>
> So yes everyone would like to cut spending. YOUR
> vote very well could determine where.

You've got me curious. Where besides defense would you cut spending?

HH
John

I once read a quote on a forum that said " How do you anger a conservative?-lie to him, how do you anger a liberal?-tell him the truth". After reading some of this thread, it sure seems that quote has some merit.....



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DirtyJohn Wrote:
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> > > Tea Party's primary goal is to have a
> balanced
> > > budget and stop the government's runaway
> > reckless
> > > spending. It's hard to argue with that, so
> the
> > > left wing socialists resort to name calling.
> >
> >
> > But you can sure argue where to slash spending.
> > Anyone for defense? You have one clown (Cruz)
> that
> > wants to raise the retirement age to 70. While
> I
> > realize that social security is a separate fund
> I
> > would rather pay more Into that then buy
> another
> > bomb.
> >
> > You have the conservatives that want to get rid
> of
> > the department of energy. You know the
> department
> > in charge of our nuclear weapons and is
> > responsible for inspections in other countries.
> > They are also in charge of renewable energy
> > research and development.
> >
> > You have conservatives in the tea party that
> want
> > to get rid of the EPA and and departments of
> > education and HUD.
> >
> > So yes everyone would like to cut spending.
> YOUR
> > vote very well could determine where.
>
> You've got me curious. Where besides defense would
> you cut spending?
>
> HH
> John


Conservatives talk about cutting spending but yet they will spend millions of dollars trying to
repeal The Affordable Health Care Act even when they knew they didn't have a chance.
They will spend millions of dollars trying to convict Hillary Clinton of Benghazi in a purely
political ploy

> >
> > You've got me curious. Where besides defense
> would
> > you cut spending?
> >
> > HH
> > John


>Robertj298 Wrote:

> Conservatives talk about cutting spending but yet
> they will spend millions of dollars trying to
> repeal The Affordable Health Care Act even when
> they knew they didn't have a chance.
> They will spend millions of dollars trying to
> convict Hillary Clinton of Benghazi in a purely
> political ploy

So you've got nothing? Nowhere to possibly cut spending in your eyes except of course to gut our military.

I have to admit, I'm not surprised by your response. Leftists never have an answer to that question.

HH
John



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I would start with the military. And I would hit it hard. I would take 50%. I would remove troops stationed around the world like South Korea. The US would cease to being the worlds police. I would also have entitlements on the table. Social security would have no cap . The wealthy would pay more in. That is one way I would tax the rich. They would be hit hard as well.
Medicare would be replaced by a national healthcare plan. All citizens would be under one plan and non citizens would be under another. They would pay some of the costs. I would take every single dollar of profit out of healthcare management and return it to the system. Welfare and snap would be turned on it's head looking for abuse.

I would tax the churches of every faith. I would simplify the tax system with a national flat tax. I would offer the 15 million illegals here now a chance to be citizens and become part of the solution by paying taxes. I would raise the minimum wage to a fair wage for incentive to become citizens. One way to become a citizen would be to serve in the military, law enforcement or some kind of volunteering that would benefit your new country. I would release non violent criminals on a case by case basis relieving the over burden on our prisons. There are many ways to cut costs. There are many ways to increase the money coming in.

Sounds a lot like obamanomics, ........we know how great that's ....yea
right.

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> I would start with the military. And I would hit
> it hard. I would take 50%. I would remove troops
> stationed around the world like South Korea. The
> US would cease to being the worlds police.

Great idea, especially when we have North Korea testing nukes and firing missiles into the Sea of Japan right now. China is ramping things up. Not to mention Russia is starting to get restless again. Why not leave our military under funded and unprepared. We can supply each of our soldiers with 5 bullets apiece and send them on their way, right?

> I would also have entitlements on the table. Social
> security would have no cap . The wealthy would pay
> more in. That is one way I would tax the rich.
> They would be hit hard as well.

So your idea here to cut spending is to raise taxes, so you can spend more on entitlements. I know the Dems have completely demonized the rich in this country as if they stole their money from the poor. I for one can say I have never been offered a job from a poor person.

> Medicare would be replaced by a national
> healthcare plan.

It's been done badly all around the globe. We had the best healthcare until Obama got his grubby hands on it. Now costs have skyrocketed and coverage is pathetic. Deny it, but I know better.

> All citizens would be under one
> plan and non citizens would be under another. They
> would pay some of the costs.

Actually requiring foreign nationals in this country illegally to cover some of their own medical cost? How about all of their medical costs? You don't want to be the world's police but you don't seem to mind being the world's sugar daddy.

> I would take every
> single dollar of profit out of healthcare
> management and return it to the system.

Profit is necessary if risk is going to be taken, otherwise where's the incentive to take the risk in the first place. That's what health insurance is and that's also why our healthcare system was the most advanced on the planet.

> Welfare
> and snap would be turned on it's head looking for
> abuse.

Something we both agree on.

> I would tax the churches of every faith.

There goes freedom of religion in this country. No more separation of church and state either. Might as well have a poll tax while we're at it.

> I would
> simplify the tax system with a national flat tax.

OK, me too or something like it

> I would offer the 15 million illegals here now a
> chance to be citizens and become part of the
> solution by paying taxes.

Maybe, if it was done correctly but the borders would have to be secured first.

> I would raise the
> minimum wage to a fair wage for incentive to
> become citizens.

Raising the minimum wage does nothing but increase costs for merchandise, housing, utilities and food, thus making it a zero sum gain. Not to mention it lowers the pay of everyone else already making above minimum wage.

> One way to become a citizen would
> be to serve in the military, law enforcement or
> some kind of volunteering that would benefit your
> new country.

Once again maybe, if it was done correctly but the borders would have to be secured first.

>I would release non violent criminals
> on a case by case basis relieving the over burden
> on our prisons.

I can also agree on this point

> There are many ways to cut costs.
> There are many ways to increase the money coming
> in.
Agreed


HH
John



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I would also say to Goodmore that I don't believe you want spending cuts in their true sense.

I believe you would cut in certain areas but redirect that money somewhere else with actual tax increases in alot of areas.

There would be no relief for the taxpayer under any Democrat President.

HH
John



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Allah SnackBar !!!!! I have seen the light Goodmore for president!!!!

Hey I'm just a factory worker. I could have given the Trump answer. I'll hire really smart people. It doesn't take a math major to see where we as a country spend the most money. In many ways Conservatives and Liberals want the same thing. They just take different paths to get there. Freedom of Religion? Or Free Religion? I would tax the hell out of it. North Korea? Not our problem. Let Asia handle Asia. We have weapons now that make a huge military unnecessary. I would also deal with the trade deficit. Myself, I cant figure out how we as a nation allow a half trillion trade deficit to happen. But the money issue is only one side of the coin. We differ greatly on Social issues and that is one reason I will pull the big D lever in November.

I love how the teabaggers think we need to cut spending on everything but the military, when we spend more on the military than the next 9 countries combined.

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> Hey I'm just a factory worker. I could have given
> the Trump answer. I'll hire really smart people.
> It doesn't take a math major to see where we as a
> country spend the most money. In many ways
> Conservatives and Liberals want the same thing.
> They just take different paths to get there.
> Freedom of Religion? Or Free Religion? I would tax
> the hell out of it. North Korea? Not our problem.
> Let Asia handle Asia. We have weapons now that
> make a huge military unnecessary. I would also
> deal with the trade deficit. Myself, I cant figure
> out how we as a nation allow a half trillion trade
> deficit to happen. But the money issue is only one
> side of the coin. We differ greatly on Social
> issues and that is one reason I will pull the big
> D lever in November.

Maybe you ought to do a little research to find out why we have a trade deficit, makes me wonder how you ever got through life thus far.

The Clinton admins. shoved the N.orth A.merican F.ree T.rade A.greement down our throats, the TPP & TP&P was shoved down out throats by the Obama admins.

Trump said he would nullify those agreements, I'd say he is for the working man, which of coarse you don't because you don't do the research........lol

Hombre Wrote:
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> goodmore Wrote:
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> > Hey I'm just a factory worker. I could have
> given
> > the Trump answer. I'll hire really smart
> people.
> > It doesn't take a math major to see where we as
> a
> > country spend the most money. In many ways
> > Conservatives and Liberals want the same thing.
> > They just take different paths to get there.
> > Freedom of Religion? Or Free Religion? I would
> tax
> > the hell out of it. North Korea? Not our
> problem.
> > Let Asia handle Asia. We have weapons now that
> > make a huge military unnecessary. I would also
> > deal with the trade deficit. Myself, I cant
> figure
> > out how we as a nation allow a half trillion
> trade
> > deficit to happen. But the money issue is only
> one
> > side of the coin. We differ greatly on Social
> > issues and that is one reason I will pull the
> big
> > D lever in November.
>
> Maybe you ought to do a little research to find
> out why we have a trade deficit, makes me wonder
> how you ever got through life thus far.
>
> The Clinton admins. shoved the N.orth A.merican
> F.ree T.rade A.greement down our throats, the TPP
> & TP&P was shoved down out throats by the Obama
> admins.
>
> Trump said he would nullify those agreements, I'd
> say he is for the working man, which of coarse you
> don't because you don't do the research........lol

He also said he'd lower the minimum wage to make us more competitive with the Chinese. Hmm, I thought he said he could beat the Chinese? What's his plan to cut spending other than deregulation? Which I'm completely against.



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iqwozpoom Wrote:
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> > Americans need jobs now,go on a construction
> site
> > or a welding shop and odds are it will be
> Mexicans
> > doing the jobs Americans would be doing but the
> > employer is paying them chump change
> > for skilled labor Americans should be doing.
>
> Supertraq, at my work we employ many Mexican
> migrant workers. I believe someone had made a
> comment about the me generation. Well the company
> I work for tries to hire locally, but the truth is
> without migrant workers the company would probably
> fold. That would cost many millions to the local
> economy. The problem is that lots of locals in
> need of employment want better pay but don't want
> to work for it, or work at all. I also don't
> believe that employer's are paying them chump
> change. They work hard and will find someone who
> will pay better and appreciates their labour.
> I'm of mixed heritage as well and there are good
> and bad of both.

The company you work for doesn't pay enough. Period.

I really wish this subject had not been posted. I didn't want to see how ignorant folks can be. I've seen it on other forums. Shame.

Where you been, ignorance is quite common.

ozzie Wrote:
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> Where you been, ignorance is quite common.

That doesn't mean I have to deal with it on a detecting web site. It's a shame the owner let this on here. One can be a super detectorist which doesn't translate to being good person.

Detectorist Wrote:
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------------"Cz's still bad to the bone".------------
Living on a big ass Astroid.
The woman that got my rib,I want it back.



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goodmore Wrote:
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> I would start with the military. And I would hit
> it hard. I would take 50%. I would remove troops
> stationed around the world like South Korea. The
> US would cease to being the worlds police. I would
> also have entitlements on the table. Social
> security would have no cap . The wealthy would pay
> more in. That is one way I would tax the rich.
> They would be hit hard as well.
> Medicare would be replaced by a national
> healthcare plan. All citizens would be under one
> plan and non citizens would be under another. They
> would pay some of the costs. I would take every
> single dollar of profit out of healthcare
> management and return it to the system. Welfare
> and snap would be turned on it's head looking for
> abuse.
>
> I would tax the churches of every faith. I would
> simplify the tax system with a national flat tax.
> I would offer the 15 million illegals here now a
> chance to be citizens and become part of the
> solution by paying taxes. I would raise the
> minimum wage to a fair wage for incentive to
> become citizens. One way to become a citizen would
> be to serve in the military, law enforcement or
> some kind of volunteering that would benefit your
> new country. I would release non violent criminals
> on a case by case basis relieving the over burden
> on our prisons. There are many ways to cut costs.
> There are many ways to increase the money coming
> in.

Do you realize that Medicare pays doctors squat? You get what you pay for. Good doctors don't take Medicare for long, they don't have to.

You would put those who broke laws in order to come here, to be the law? Boy, it's a very good thing you are a factory worker, and not a politician.

Detectorist Wrote:
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> I really wish this subject had not been posted. I
> didn't want to see how ignorant folks can be. I've
> seen it on other forums. Shame.

Me too, this country is circling the drain....

I try and make my points and show some of the reasons for my thoughts.

This thread is here,,, might as well make it educational for some folks.

[en.m.wikipedia.org]

[en.m.wikipedia.org]



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The Clinton admins. shoved the N.orth A.merican F.ree T.rade A.greement down our throats, the TPP & TP&P was shoved down out throats by the Obama admins.

Well first of all it wasn't Clinton:

Quote
Following diplomatic negotiations dating back to 1990 among the three nations, U.S. President George H. W. Bush, Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney and Mexican President Carlos Salinas, each responsible for spearheading and promoting the agreement, ceremonially signed the agreement in their respective capitals on December 17, 1992.[5] The signed agreement then needed to be ratified by each nation's legislative or parliamentary branch.

But the agreement was considered a success.

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In a survey of leading economists, 95% supported the notion that on average, US citizens benefited on NAFTA.[29] A 2001 Journal of Economic Perspectives review found that NAFTA was a net benefit to the United States.[28] The U.S. Chamber of Commerce credits NAFTA with increasing U.S. trade in goods and services with Canada and Mexico from $337 billion in 1993 to $1.2 trillion in 2011, while the AFL-CIO blames the agreement for sending 700,000 American manufacturing jobs to Mexico over that time.[30]

Where it went wrong was corporate greed. The loss of jobs was not the fault of the US government.

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I really wish this subject had not been posted. I didn't want to see how ignorant folks can be. I've seen it on other forums. Shame.

One thread? There has been some name calling, but over all it has provided many some entertainment and and the chance to vent. The ironic part is this entire thread is just opinions. In a few months it will all be obsolete. I find some of it fascinating. Where we are born seems to be a big factor in politics. The cost of living and wages across the country varies greatly. Prejudice is alive and well in the great melting pot. We will never find out what others think if there is no discussion. I'll be pulling the Liberal lever in November. But when it comes to detecting I can hunt beside any conservative. Politics are fun to me, but at the end of the day they are just opinions.



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