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Smaller iron relics like this photo, will hit one way higher id and 90 deg id lower than nail. Big iron relics like a horseshoe will id higher than nail.
Hammer by Rick Covert, on Flickr
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
To get a high tone hit on iron relics like gun parts, notch out the nails you have and open up everything else. I like digging iron relics too.
You have to use C disc so you can notch. 60 tones is nice. Set iron filter at 0 or 1 and stability at 4-5. Set tone break as low it can go. I like recovery 3.
Use the new coils LG24 6x9.5 & LG 30 9x12. The 11" coil no longer has a use. The
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Park and M2 have the best separation in iron, with Iron Bias 1 & Stability 4. For best separation in iron make sure disc or tone break is lower than 11, 8 or 9 is good.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Say from 0-6", 6-8", 8-10" and 10"+ in your mild ground.
Just wondering if that been done.
So say an AT Pro can detect to 9" and someone can see what percentage of nonferrous targets it can find in that particular soil.
Calabash was talking about that on a video and I thought you might have done this.
It would be interesting to see what % of nonferrous targe
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Great story Daniel. I like hearing that. Kind of like my hunting in northern Michigan. I'm happy when I find a square nail or a horse shoe. Almost as happy as finding an IH.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Daniel you "nailed it" with the false hits in iron. Any detector you use in iron, the sensitivity needs to be turned down. I left a message on a video to try turning the sensitivity down to 14-15 on the Manticore in iron and see what happens.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
I have a friend, Kac on Steve's Prospecting Forum. He has an AT Pro and the Apex. He loves them both. He doesn't like the audio so much but you can get used to it. He doesn't for the Xp's and new minelabs.
I would say get the Apex and try it.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Good question.
Monte's term, Power Balancing, doesn't seem to work on newer detectors. I turn my Tejon a lot more negative.
It works great on Tesoro's, Garrett AT series, Deeptech Vista detectors and others. Maybe the ground balance is different in these detectors than the newer ones.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
AT Gold also is a good detector. Separation is surprisingly good. AT Gold has an all metal mode using disc, iron has a high/low tone, non ferrous has a high tone. All metal mode doesn't work well in iron though.
Another detector in that price range is the Xp Orx that's hard to beat.
I don't think the Apex would gain anything over the 540.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Jess, Nasa Tom said the Manticore has 23% more depth over Deus 2 in iron not over all. That's still good. It's hard to get depth in iron.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Thank you for your observations with Tone Break. Winter for me now and I'm anxious to use the Legend with better separation.
I will try increasing Tone Break and see how it works so I can hear some iron. Nails do start breaking up at tone break 6.
There is more to the Legend to make it better. Hopefully in the next update.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
8" coil used be be standard. It seems after the Equinox came out, 11" coils became the standard.
I don't like 11" coils either. I would be happy with an 8" or 9" and 5.5x9 coils. Having a choice when you buy would be nice.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
NASA-Tom, also along with the question of separation in heavy iron. Does the Manticore get false hits in iron and when the signal is checked, nothing is there, like the Equinox does?
How about, how deep on a gold ring in dry sand?
Interesting detector.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum
Use:
Park or Field
Disc Pattern: F, notch foil if you don't want it or C
M2 or M3
Tone Break 1, this is what makes the separation incredible. For some reason Tone Break is affecting separation.
Iron Filter 1, Stability 4
Try it out. This make the Legend separation as good as anything.
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Rick, N. MI
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Thomas Dankowski Metal Detecting Forum